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Far from my arms. Another song demo made in LP4M
I might actually like making those songs. It is different and actually very challenging.
EDIT: Uploaded an improved version on Bandcamp: https://josephbalson.bandcamp.com/track/far-from-my-arms
A few guitar notes a bit out of place, and the word ”whispers” I copied/pasted two different edits of the last syllable intonation, and just forgot to delete one…. So I say whispers-spers in the YouTube version. Yuk. Fixed it.
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Outstanding! It's a very good song, and believe me I don't say that lightly.
I love the variations in the vocal melody, they make the song really interesting to listen to - it's always catchy, memorable, and never boring.
Your voice is terrific as well, the vocal sounds great. Maybe the tuning is bit too tight? I think I can hear slight tuning artifacts there, but I'm not 100% sure.
The arrangement is really well crafted, and flows amazingly well, and the instrumentation sounds great. I'm amazed at how good the MIDI guitars sound, I think some real guitars would be better but these are really very good as they are.
It seems there is nothing you can't turn your hand to, every genre you experiment with turns out great.
Thank you @richardyot
the vocals are a bit complicated, involving amongst other thing a lot (and I mean an effing lot) of Antares processing. That is the very tedious part of the song making thing for me.
On this one I left the AI drummer do its thing, I just adjusted the drum kit.
Yeah, real guitars would sound MUCH better, but I have to o with what is readily available right now. At least the midi I wrote doesn't play anything a real guitar wouldnt play.
I don't know about every genre I experiment turning great... I actually don't upload the bad attempts, and they are legion.
Is this actually your voice?
The guitars are a bit loud in the mix, they’re obscuring the vocals. Maybe shave off a bit of the high end? Otherwise this is outstanding and very pop oriented. Nicely done.
thanks @NeuM
it is 3/4 my voice, with lots of effects, a mix with AI, some fake harmonies (some made by stacking tracks and transposing, some in antares) and a shitload of autotune also in antares.
I'm not really used to mix that genre, and especially vocals.
The guitars sound too weak to me... And at the same time they arent real guitars, the spectrum is weird, but after correction the visual spectrum seemed to be more or less ok.
On my old Akai monitors, they are definitely too weak. On the airpods pro 2 and DT770 they seems ok-ish, A bit weak on the max, and everything is drowned in bass on my cheap headphones.
Mixing and mastering remain a dark art to me, so I feel extremely lucky to be living in a time in which mastering software is rapidly improving to automate the process. As I said, overall you’ve done an excellent job.
Definitely dark arts. I’m so glad at least now I don’t have to deal with mastering. Logic does it quite well. Mixing on the other hand is a real hassle. I’m so not interested in that. I like writing music, playing piano. I’m not an engineer.
Make a bunch of CDs. Get a ticket to Nashville. Start at Tootsies and work your way down Broadway. Don’t try to make it perfect. The girls won’t care about that. Really good stuff, Joseph. You write nice songs. My wife loves it.
Thank you and mrs @Paulieworld .
I've been in Tennessee a long time ago. I mostly don't remember anything from that time. Then I stayed in Kentucky, and don't remember much more.
Listened a few more times. Whatever you are doing with your voice sounds completely natural. I think you are just being modest. You just have a great voice. Folks that listen to this style are not really paying close attention to the finer details of the instrumentation. They hear your voice and the story. This sounded good on my cheap office speakers, and would sound good on a little transistor radio in the kitchen. It’s just a really good song. My wife said she would play this in her car while driving. I hope you do more like this. You have two new fans!
Thank you a lot @Paulieworld . I stated somewhere else I know how to sing, but I don’t. Don’t like it, don’t like the sound of my voice. That is interesting you find it natural because I really abused Antares, even tried to make some “step” effect with the auto tune.
Uploaded an improved version on Bandcamp: https://josephbalson.bandcamp.com/track/far-from-my-arms
A few guitar notes a bit out of place, and the word ”whispers” I copied/pasted two different edits of the last syllable intonation, and just forgot to delete one…. So I say whispers-spers in the YouTube version. Yuk. Fixed it.
Also tried to follow @NeuM recommandation and put the vocals a bit more in the front.
I listened to the latest. Nice, but my wife just thinks it’s a pretty song, regardless of the mixing details. I rather like it, too. It’s just a really nice song.
Yep as others have said, it’s a great song. I would like to bet you could use a little less fx on the vocals, because it sounds like a really decent sounding voice that’s just a tad restrained by fx. I would probably do the same to mine, but your voice doesn’t sound like it needs it.
I like the arrangement as it just melts into the background enough to just backup the vocals as it should. These types of ballads are not as easy to get right as some people think, really great job and the image used is really fitting.
Now, I’m jealous! If I had been able to sing as well I’m sure I would’ve ruined my life. I, too, would like to hear less fx.
thanks @Paulieworld @LinearLineman @Fruitbat1919
yes, when I started to write for that genre, I thought this was gonna be fast and easy. Actually wasn't at all. Had to rewrite this one a few times because it didn't sound like I imagined it would once recorded.
Trust me, my voice needs that processing. without it your ears would bleed.
Remember I'm not a performer, I'm basically a composer. I perform because I have absolutely no other choice. I don't really enjoy the act of playing anymore like I did 30 years ago. Now the pleasure comes from the composing phase, and listening the final product. if I had readily at my disposal a bunch of musician willing to blindly obey my commands like Logic does, it would be different, but then new problems would emerge: the need for a space with good sound properties, expensive mics and shit, and an engineer to manage all that stuff because I hate it.
Surely all my compositions would sound better played and perform by someone else with real instruments, of that I have no doubt.
Lovely song, agree with @Paulieworld , make a CD of this sort of stuff and headlining with Taylor Swift is the next step 😊
Vocals are overprocessed for me though 🤨
Be great to hear the voice au natural!
Trust me, that would be the opposite of great actually. Abysmal or something like that. It isn’t over processed just for the sake of over processing, even if one of my favorite vocals are only god knows why.