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Send MIDI data from iPad Pro to PC
I asked ChatGPT if I could send MIDI data from my iPad Pro to my PC. It came back with this…sounds great, except it didn’t work. The PC does not seem to recognise the iPad as a MIDI device - what’s the story?
Yes, you can use your iPad Pro to send MIDI data to a PC. Here are the steps you can follow:
1. Wired Connection via USB
- USB-C to USB Cable: Use a USB-C to USB cable to connect your iPad Pro to your PC.
- MIDI Over USB: The iPad Pro supports MIDI over USB, so once connected, the PC should recognize the iPad as a MIDI device.
- DAW/Software Setup: Open your Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) or MIDI software on your PC and configure it to receive MIDI data from the iPad Pro
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That’ll work with a Mac using iDAM. It’s tougher with a PC.
Two usb midi cables connected with a male-male adapter is one way.
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1187365/#Comment_1187365
(There are other suggestions in that thread too.
rtpMIDI might be worth a (free) try: https://tobias-erichsen.de/software/rtpmidi.html
It's compatible with the "Network Session" interface you find on iOS.
I would check it out and see if the latency is not too bad. In my studio setup I have the iPad connected via wired ethernet (USB adapter), and the connection goes directly into the same switch my (Linux) computer connects to. This avoids any additional latency caused by WiFi protocol overhead and additional routing.
I use hardware usually with an iconnectaudio4+ but bluetooth is another good way for midi.
Try this it worked well for me with my Surface, it's free.
MIDIberry
https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9N39720H2M05?ocid=pdpshare
Fairly inexpensive solution dedicated to sending midi M-VAVE MS-1
Cme widi u host.
Thanks for your input. It’s a shame that ChatGPT is wrong, and it’s not simply a question of plugging in a USB cable. I downloaded MIDIberry, but the Bluetooth connection was cutting in and out (mainly out). Will revisit at some point 👍
You can try and also install LoopMidi on the PC to see if that helps with midiBerry, LoopMidi can be a useful in keeping a midi port open on the PC side. https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
Alas, all roads for iOS app/ midi questions lead back to ABF. The humans win this round.
Honestly this post makes me laugh, not at you at all!
Just at the pseudo confidence that LLM answers questions.
Did ChatGPT provide sourcing? I know Anthropic does or did without even asking, I think Claude did/does too? I don’t know for sure but I don’t have ChatGPT so I don’t know if they provide the reference sourcing with their answers and I’m curious.
Honestly I’ve tried Bluetooth Midi on the PC even Network Midi lots of hassle, unstable and in the case of Network Midi lots of latency, for about £10 the MS-1 is really quit hassle free, insert USB dongle update firmware, connect to the transmitter-receiver, you also get a 5 pin din midi connection too if you wish to use it. Only downside is only one device connection.
So, in my case I would connect the USB dongle to what, the PC or my iPad? I could barely get the two to communicate over Bluetooth at all when I tried this yesterday - it dropped out after seconds. Are you saying this makes that connection stable? And I assume the 5 pin connector is not required in my case.
You connect the USB dongle to a USB A port a midi port then would be available on the PC, then search on your iPad for that Bluetooth midi device, then connect, if you use the 5 pin midi dongle that automatically connects to the dongle, so using both methods simultaneously isn’t possible.
I mainly use mine for the Push 3SA it goes into my usb hub that allows me both ways midi connection with my iPad, the Push 3 instantly recognises the device, really quite simple.
Here’s a link to the device.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006997794298.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.2ea6bNckbNckaR&algo_pvid=41855fd8-3bfa-4ff6-a77f-c12fe5599d4d&algo_exp_id=41855fd8-3bfa-4ff6-a77f-c12fe5599d4d-1&pdp_npi=4@dis!GBP!18.26!8.96!!!167.08!81.97!@2103834817217201689601668ec785!12000038993027623!sea!UK!2910609542!&curPageLogUid=ERCYi0bAxV4J&utparam-url=scene:search|query_from:
Well I just tested MIDIberry on my desktop into Ableton and it works great for me, no droputs. If you already have a decent bluetooth adapter in your PC you don't need any extra hardware to do it over bluetooth from an iPad.
Although I still always recommend an iconnectaudio4+ so you can do both audio+midi.
You can also make a great midi hub with a raspberry pi zero, but that's a bit more time involved
for Midi out from iPad via bluetooth I recommend to use AUM
I've just taken delivery of one of these M-VAVE devices, this one to be precise:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B37M62BB?ref_=pe_27063361_487360311_302_E_DDE_dt_1
I wonder if you could help me please?
I have plugged the USB dongle into a port on my PC. I've not done anything with the MIDI Din thing. I can see it listed as "SINCO" under Bluetooth devices on my PC. My iPad Pro does not see it under Bluetooth devices. I haven't updated the firmware - how do I do that? Am I missing something? Thank you.
I don't have one, but I think you're looking in the wrong place. If you plugged it in to the PC you don't look for it under the Bluetooth devices. It should show up as a USB Midi port in your PC DAW.
If you've paired it to your PC via Bluetooth then you need to unpair (forget) that connection. Hopefully that will make it show up to the iPad. I think it's not showing up now because it can only pair to one device and you've already paired it to the PC.
Thanks for replying. Right, stage 1 - I am now looking in the correct place. My desktop DAW is Studio One, and with the USB dongle plugged into the PC, a new port has appeared called USB-Midi. I have set up a "New Keyboard" and told it to receive from USB-Midi:
However, there is no sign of it on the iPad. I don't think I have paired it with any other device - how can I check that?
Normally there's a LED on bluetooth devices that flashes when waiting to pair and is solid when paired.
I just remembered, my M-Vave Chocolate, unlike other BLE Midi devices, needed to be paired once in iOS Bluetooth Settings before it showed up in AUM. Maybe this is the same for the dongle.
I am in iOS Bluetooth Settings and there's no sign of it - I must be misunderstanding you.
Is there any sign of a LED that's either flashing or steady-on?
You mentioned Bluetooth on the PC earlier. Did you connect in the Bluetooth settings on the PC? You don't want to have done that. If you did, then you need to unpair it.
There is a blue light flashing on the dongle when it's plugged into the PC. The dongle is not listed in the list of devices in the PC's Bluetooth Settings, so I hope that means it is not paired.
If it's flashing it's probably not paired with anything. I don't know why it isn't showing up in either AUM Bluetooth > peripheral, or iOS Bluetooth settings.
Did it come with a manual? Is there anything in it about how to Reset the device?
Did you try installing the korg ble midi driver? Or was it only needed with the cme widi dongle?
@Alfred, I don't think that's relevant. He's not trying to connect to the dongle via Bluetooth from the PC. It's a USB Device. He's trying to connect to it from the iPad via Bluetooth.
@BillS I could be totally wrong (trying to find info about this thing is very difficult), but it seems like the purpose of this device is to pair from the USB stick to the 5-pin midi connectors that it came with, not to just any device.
It seems like it's intended to be used to connect a USB device such as the PC to those plugs inserted into a device that has 5-pin midi only to, connect it over the air.
Do you have any hardware controller like that you could test with?
ignore 👍🏼
It's working.
I connected it inside AUM first. Then I checked iOS Bluetooth settings and it has magically appeared there. Thank you for your help.
I am now able to play VST instruments inside Studio One with the iOS Kb-1 keyboard wirelessly.
I'm going to bed now before it breaks. Hopefully it will still be working in the morning.
Cheers guys.
I'm glad it's working. Like most BLE Midi devices, AUM Bluetooth settings should be all you ever need to go to. The iOS Bluetooth connection dialog should be ignored.
(It's only the M-Vave Chocolate that I've ever seen connecting in iOS settings first to be necessary. Being that it's the same brand, I tossed that out as a possibility of why you weren't seeing it in AUM Bluetooth connections.)
@BillS sorry I was awol, but glad you got it working, yes SINCO is the dongles name, btw MidiMittr is a free app great for creating virtual midi connections especially with regards to Bluetooth Midi.
CubeSuite is the app you can check for firmware updates and it’s configuration, but the default is usually fine.
Ha ha - no worries. I had kept all the packaging in case I had to send it back to Amazon :-)
So, it's the next morning and the connection is still there, working right out of the box. And no latency I can hear either. Very happy bunny - thank you for making me aware of the product, this is something that I know I will use a lot. A few years ago @wim kindly helped me set up a way to connect iPad MIDI to desktop that involved two audio interfaces. Although there were wires going everywhere it was a set up that I used extensively when recording my album Predetermined. So, thank you again Mr. @wim for your generous time.
https://open.spotify.com/album/694Gmjp82MSjKrmwx1CgL1
I was trying to do this so I could use GeoShred against some guitar vsts I own, but it looks like some third party software software is needed, and the process seemed kludgey. Has anyone been able to do it with the hardware being discussed here?
Just tried this using the M-Vave. GeoShred works, in that it sends basic note data to my Orange Tree samples in Kontakt for example, but there are no slides etc, it’s just like using a regular MIDI keyboard, but actually not even as good. I tried enabling MPE on the desktop (I’m in Studio One Pro 5) but it made no difference.
Too bad. Not even pitch bend data?
The only workaround I know of right now is to record the midi on a daw or vst that captures MPE data like Atom 2 or Cubasis and export that to the PC. Not as ideal as it would be to be able to use it directly. 😄