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Recording Syntakt Knob Movements on iPad

Hi guys. I'm fairly new to Drambo. I'm using it with an Elektron syntakt and I would like to be able to capture Syntakt knob tweaks into Drambo as automation, then send the automation data back to syntakt to automate it's parameters. If possible I would prefer to do this without manually midi mapping every Syntakt encoder to parameters in Drambo. Is there some AUV3 that would allow capturing (and editing) this automation in a way Drambo can send it back to syntakt?

I know about MIDI tape recorder but it doesn't allow editing the captured performance. And then recording what Tape Recorder captured into Drambo is out of the question, I want to avoid overly complex workflow steps.

In Ableton if I tweak knobs on Syntakt it captures every movement and then when I press play that captured automation gets played back in Syntakt. I'd like to achieve the same in Drambo (or some alternative similar app)

If this isn't possible how would I go about setting this up using only the tools in Drambo? As in what module should I map the Syntakt encoders to?

I'm also open to suggestions for apps other than Drambo that do this out of the box that also allow playing Auv3 instruments and resampling syntakt (I have cubasis, logic but the workflow isn't immediate enough, so I would prefer something more focused and straightforward like BAM - which unfortunately can't record smooth automation)

Thanks in advance :)

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  • This is how I would do it:

    • Map Syntakt CCs to any number of knobs in the "CC Generator Multi"
    • Knob movements will be recorded in Drambo, no matter if you turn them inside Drambo or on the Syntakt
    • Recorded Cc changes will be sent back to Syntakt if you choose the respective MIDI out port in the MIDI Output module.
    • I've added a MIDi Mixer with mute functon so you can block MIDI feedback if necessary

  • @rs2000 said:
    This is how I would do it:

    • Map Syntakt CCs to any number of knobs in the "CC Generator Multi"
    • Knob movements will be recorded in Drambo, no matter if you turn them inside Drambo or on the Syntakt
    • Recorded Cc changes will be sent back to Syntakt if you choose the respective MIDI out port in the MIDI Output module.
    • I've added a MIDi Mixer with mute functon so you can block MIDI feedback if necessary

    Wow. Is this “graphical programming”. Just set up those modules? Or would a dr file be a better way to get all the details correct?

  • @McD said:

    Wow. Is this “graphical programming”. Just set up those modules?

    Well I'd rather say that Drambo happily happens to have the right modules built in already ;)

    Or would a dr file be a better way to get all the details correct?

    Sorry, what do you mean by dr file?

  • Not in front of my ipad now, but I think I remember you can export the contents of Midi Tape Recorder, no? If it does, maybe you can record in MTR and then export to an app that allows you to edit that midi. Would Drambo allow you to import that MTR recording and edit it? If so, that might be a solution.

    @DiscoBiscuitChef said:
    Hi guys. I'm fairly new to Drambo. I'm using it with an Elektron syntakt and I would like to be able to capture Syntakt knob tweaks into Drambo as automation, then send the automation data back to syntakt to automate it's parameters. If possible I would prefer to do this without manually midi mapping every Syntakt encoder to parameters in Drambo. Is there some AUV3 that would allow capturing (and editing) this automation in a way Drambo can send it back to syntakt?

    I know about MIDI tape recorder but it doesn't allow editing the captured performance. And then recording what Tape Recorder captured into Drambo is out of the question, I want to avoid overly complex workflow steps.

    In Ableton if I tweak knobs on Syntakt it captures every movement and then when I press play that captured automation gets played back in Syntakt. I'd like to achieve the same in Drambo (or some alternative similar app)

    If this isn't possible how would I go about setting this up using only the tools in Drambo? As in what module should I map the Syntakt encoders to?

    I'm also open to suggestions for apps other than Drambo that do this out of the box that also allow playing Auv3 instruments and resampling syntakt (I have cubasis, logic but the workflow isn't immediate enough, so I would prefer something more focused and straightforward like BAM - which unfortunately can't record smooth automation)

    Thanks in advance :)

  • edited July 2024

    Why so complicated @Gavinski? 😉

    @DiscoBiscuitChef
    If you don't mind using a separate app, Imaginando LK will record CC data without the need to map any parameters. As soon as new controller data arrives, it will create a new automation lane and record value changes.
    Then you won't have any visual feedback or the freedom to use either Syntakt or Drambo knobs while recording automation though.

  • @rs2000 said:
    Why so complicated @Gavinski? 😉

    Ah haha! But does your solution not require him to map the knobs? I thought he didn't want to do that. So I'm guessing your solution maybe doesn't need individual mapping but just some kind of batch twiddling? No idea, as I don't know about how this works in Drambo with the modules you recommended, but if it's a fast solution, yes, maybe it will be the best one 🔥 ☺

  • @Gavinski said:

    Ah haha! But does your solution not require him to map the knobs? I thought he didn't want to do that. So I'm guessing your solution maybe doesn't need individual mapping but just some kind of batch twiddling? No idea, as I don't know about how this works in Drambo with the modules you recommended, but if it's a fast solution, yes, maybe it will be the best one 🔥 ☺

    Sure. Mapping 8 Syntakt knobs to 8 Drambo knobs is a matter of 5 seconds. Literally.
    I wouldn't mind at all but yeah, if that's more important then we still have LK 😊

  • @rs2000 said:

    Sure. Mapping 8 Syntakt knobs to 8 Drambo knobs is a matter of 5 seconds. Literally.
    I wouldn't mind at all but yeah, if that's more important then we still have LK 😊

    Yes,​ I also don't see a big problem with just mapping the knobs tbh

  • @SinghSong said:
    And @DiscoBiscuitChef you can also easily rename the knobs to match the Syntakt by just long pressing the module header, + 5 more seconds 😂

    @rs2000 I think McD may have been questioning why the visual rather than a dr rack upload in Patchstorage. Just a brief read here and you get to know, everyone craves an RS Drambo upload over all that module connecting 😉

    Ha, thank you very much! :smiley:
    Over the years, likes and comments on my patchstorage posts have been some kind of measure for me about how useful each upload was to others, and simple things like this one usually don't get any feedback at all.
    In order to avoid "spamming" patchstorage with relatively trivial patches, I prefer a quick upload of a screenshot with short description here, as long as there is no secret in hidden connections and if there is, I'll add the info too.

    But thanks again, you've reminded me of listing my recent DIY tap tempo delay here :)

  • Thanks so much for the great suggestions guys. I'll try them all and see what works best. I've realized logic pro actually does this pretty much automatically but then my Syntakt knobs bug out and the parameters get sticky and hard to change even after turning off automation. Would still want to do it in Drambo with all the modular flexibility it offers (ie: making my own instruments racks that I can control from syntakt)

    Regarding the amount of knobs that need to be mapped, it's not just 8 😄. It's 8 per page (with more than 5 pages per track) and then that is multiplied by 12 tracks. I would I like to map them all to have a ready made template so I can just turn Drambo and syntakt on and tweak without much setup. And that would take quite a long time. I don't mind setting it up once and having it as a template but I'm in a period where I don't have a whole lot of free time.

  • edited July 2024

    Mapping should save as a template and the knobs can also rename. So when you go to automation lanes. Names will be in automation lanes.

    I didnt know you could tweak a knob via syntakt and Drambo automate it back.

  • @rs2000 said:

    Well I'd rather say that Drambo happily happens to have the right modules built in already ;)

    Sorry, what do you mean by dr file?

    I mean the saved “instrument racks”, presets, etc that Drambo saves or exports and could be
    shared on patchstorage or inserted in a comment in a supported zip file.

  • edited July 2024

    Yeah I know, I normally love making templates and racks. Just need to find the time with work and exams coming up.

    Thanks for the tips, it should make things easier :)

    What does the layers module do? Having some trouble finding the info

    @SinghSong said:

    It’s not as bad as you think @DiscoBiscuitChef Think of it as the same page, five times. The Layers Module is your friend here. Then just save that as a Rack and load the same Rack in 12 Drambo tracks. You’ll only need to tweak the labels in the first Rack to match the Syntakt. Then save that Project as your Syntakt Master Template.

  • edited July 2024

    @SinghSong said:

    The layers module holds a number of parallel racks selectable with numbered buttons. You may add, remove or rename them. Only one rack is visible at a time, so it's a great tool for simplifying the visual structure. Outputs of all racks are summed at the main module output.

    Btw if you press the ‘+’ in Drambo then pull down on the menu you get a search field. Just type in ‘Layers’ and select the first option.

    Then if you tap and hold the module header you get the module menu. Tap ‘Help’ and you get a description for the module. Works for any module.

    I’d say prioritise your exams right now. You’ll never regret having those to fall back on and there’s no such thing as too much revision! Good luck with them.

    Ah that module, I've seen it in tutorial vids but wasn't aware it's called the layers module.
    Thanks for the tips and thanks for the good luck wishes 😊

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