Which vocoder for talkbox effects (guitar carrier, voice modulator)

espiegel123

Of the current iOS vocoders (and similar) which works best for talkbox like effects with the guitar as the carrier and a voice as the modulator.

ZankFrappa

Not sure if any of the vocoder apps can do Talbox, but Nu Rack seems like a good solution.

pbelgium

I did some experiments a while back with DerVoco which was okay. If memory serves it's the only stand alone iOS vocoder that has a special mode to make it work like a talkbox - you pan the guitar to the left (carrier) and your voice to the right (modulator) and the output combines the two.
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/57760/mr-blue-sky-vocoder-guitar-using-dervoco
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/58316/there-will-never-be-another-you-dervoco-vocoder

[Deleted User]

I haven’t tried it in the set-up you refer to and it isn’t a typical vocoder: but MagicFusion might be an interesting option..

espiegel123

@pruddo said:
I haven’t tried it in the set-up you refer to and it isn’t a typical vocoder: but MagicFusion might be an interesting option..

I'd be curious to know if that works -- also whether there is a way to do this without sjidechaining. (DerVoco and Matrix vocoder can be set up to use the left and right channels of a stereo input as carrier and modulator.

Thanks @ZankFrappa and @pbelgium . I've used DerVoco for this (but it seems to have state-saving problems and I find it a little finicky to set up). Apparently Matrix Vocoder works, too -- but I don't have it.

I am wondering if there is anything one can do to the modulator so that the result is more talkbox-like and a less vocoder-y. (Vocoders impose more of the modulator's spectrum than talkboxes do).