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Tape recorder similar to OP-1
Hello to all,
I'm trying to replicate the OP-1 workflow on iPad (because it is too expensive!), but even though there are other apps that can use as synths, samplers, seqs and fxs, I can't find an app to replicate the 4-track tape loop recording workflow in AUM. Some advice?
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How about gauss with the overdub turned on?
Or maybe this:
https://apps.apple.com/it/app/multitrack-recorder-plugin/id1483833410?l=en-GB
Can u describe what the features of that are that you want to replicate? Most ppl here will not be familiar with the details of the op1 looper
I used to have an OP-1 Field and have looked for the same. Looks like @sevenape 's suggestion of Multitrack Recorder is a solid one. Use that in AUM. In fact, stop to think of it, AUM is a solid choice for all these plugins.
Of course when recording into Multitrack Recorder, you'll want a Lofi effect to replicate the sound of the tape going into Multitrack Recorder. Here are two that are easy to pick up and use...
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lo-fi-af/id6444068732
Lo-Fi-AF has several different ways of degrading your sound. Its interface takes a little getting used to if you're on iPhone, but once you grok what it can do, you can replicate digital artifacts, analogue artifacts, etc.
Of course if you're simply looking for the best-sounding tape plugin, you'd be hard-pressed to find something that sounds more authentic (at least to my ears) than Taip.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/taip-baby-audio/id6446287957
One of these would appear BEFORE Multitrack Recorder as this is how the OP-1 Field captures that tape noise.
And for that one mix compressor function in the OP-1 Field (was it called "punch"?), you'll want to slap on Doctor Vibe after Multitrack Recorder in the effects chain.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/doctor-vibe-lo-fi-effect/id6479925332
Turn off the Vinyl simulator and ADC/DAC converter, adjust the "amount" knob on Mix Slammer, and voila. Instant punch to the entire mix.
Any of Bleass' synths would work wonderfully as far as synth engines are concerned, and of course any rompler like Virsyn's XinematiX and Korg's Module Pro for "real world" sounds.
There are many drum machine apps out there, and one would be hard pressed to choose between the lot of them tbqh.
Also plenty of sequencer MIDI plugins to drive the synths with, as well as KB-1 for live performance.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kb-1-keyboard-suite/id1437919435
There is one internal effect of OP-1 Field that I've been hard-pressed to find a suitable iOS version of, and that's Mother Reverb. Stratosphere came closest for me personally.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stratosphere-cloud-reverb/id1516751210
I enjoyed my OP-1 Field, and it seems it is possible to replicate the limited workflow within AUM and Multitrack recorder, but it's also a bit of a rigmarole compared to simply purchasing the damn OP-1 Field itself, picking it up and playing it.
Damn I miss my OP-1 Field. 😮💨
What happened? Did you sell it?
Yep. Had to make ends meet over here sadly.
Bummer. Sad to hear that.
Me too, mate. Me too. It was one of a kind, and I even made three EPs on it.
Thanks for all reply. I see from your comments that you are sorry for having sold it. I think it's very difficult to replicate it.
I tried to duplicate the op1 field in iOS and there’s just no way to really do it.
The suggestions here are great, and will get you in the ballpark but not on the field ( haha ziing )
Some will argue re-creating an op1 inside your daw is better, but that is simply a personal preference.
Better isn’t always better. More options and no limitations isn’t better when I’m trying to get into a flow.
Rant that’s not worth reading…😂😂
The OP workflow itself is going to be the hardest thing to duplicate, and will absolutely require a MIDI controller. You can get the sounds and effects for sure… but that buttery smooth workflow on iOS but …i just don’t see it.
You would somehow need a way to set up the iPad screen so that when you select the instrument /effect/etc from your midi controller, that also becomes visible, front and center on your screen… so as you switch from the tape to effects to instruments… it pops up right before your eyes and you don’t have to scroll across aum or logic etc to find it.
I don’t believe that is doable. And if it is please send me the template!
iOS relies on the touch screen to focus on what you are currently attempting to work with. It’s a strength and a weakness.
Part of what makes op1 and similar devices so fun and keeps you in the zone is that you don’t have to do multiple things to see what you are working on. What you select is what is on screen. There no chasing down the app.
I think you could open up every app in aum and make every app small enough to have them all visible at once on your screen, but then you run into screen space and resizing issues.
Id say get that op1 thru affirm in reverb and make monthly payments… that’s what i did
Can you describe the 4 track workflow? I’d guess loopy pro can do it but I’d need to know the details of what you want to know for sure.
Replicate the op-1
Ooooofff
Sorry but you gotta get one to really know
Just kidding (but you do tho)
I will say this, I found quite a few of the old original op1 for sale $500-600 or so on reverb
But good luck with getting the software you need…sorry not much help but to say you can get a OG-1 from reverb or Craigslist for $500
I recently got the op1f and its absolutely amazing.
Combined with loopy pro and iOS effects when you want to escape the tape, and you have yourself the perfect (imo) set up. One that could only be dreamed about just a few decades ago
If I am ever able to get one again, I will have to try this out.
Interesting. Can you record the sound form ipad into a track of the op-1 recorder?
Does the op-z have the same tape recorder as well?
Seems it has some sort of tape mode.
https://teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/tape
Yeah you can sample directly into the op1 from usbc or 3.5mm or fm
Its a great way to combine the 2 and get a lil more editing power. Well a lot more editing power haha
The opz is a great alternative at a much better price
I don’t think it’s availlable on the Appstore anymore (I still have it on my iPad from way back), but I found Fingerbeat to be an app that approximates the OP1 tape function. It is a single tape, so no 4 tracks, but the esthetics and sounds of the tape knobs gave me something of that OP1 tape feeling.
Looks like it’s not as full featured, the op-1 manual mentions the four tracks whereas op-z doesn’t…
Uhm, wow. Coincidentally I've setup something like this last week in loopy, I shit you not
Got a pile of instruments I want available
Consists of two step dials: Main and Hidden (main screen for use, hidden on second screen for more use)
Example, 3 instruments, Synth Drum Sax
Main:
Synth first
select/deselect - mute/unmute synth
select - trigger widget to set Hidden to same notch
select - close synth auv3
Hidden
Select - open synth auv3
Repeat for Drum & Sax
Effectively, on Main, any time I change it, it flashes the auv3 of the notch, but closes it immediately
But it's selected and ready to use from my controller (or velocity keyboard if no controller) and I cycle thru
On the Dial itself, I have a 2 finger tap setup that RETRIGGERS the current selection on Hidden, which opens the selected auv3!
So I can midilearn an encoder to Main, and a button to the two finger tap tap
Just scroll thru sounds and start playing, or pop it up with the tap of a button (and while selecting does flash on the screen, it's immediate closing on next select so there's zero extra processing, just a quick visual pop
In actual use, I have 3 separate dial setups - Swam (13), Synth (7), Drums (11) and all are setup to individual Velocity Keyboard configs
While I talked about the midilearning use, I haven't done that, however its setup to be ready for that
And over the past week of use, there's zero slowdown in personal speed... Whatever I want to hear I can just select and use and pull up that auv3 all from one button if I need to change anything
Havnt heard the field.
Id probably use multi Gauss.
With Surreal Machines Modnetic and diffuse ( plus turnados )
With a surface builder live interface
Inside Drambo ( for fine editing of effects )
Ungh, the tape recorder in the OP-1 is one thing I WOULDN’T want to recreate. 😎 Limitations are fun, but it’s definitely one of the more limited aspects of the machine. Just throwing that out there for counterpoint, I wouldn’t be too upset if you can’t find something similar.
Also, the OP-Z has a completely different way of recording data than the OP-1, it’s more of a midi sequencer than an audio recorder. The Tape Tricks are something totally different than the name implies.
Iv got 7 Swams.
All ready with about 8 Parameters mapped for realism.
On a seperate ipad.
The ipad is just for the swams.
Only thing im not buying is a 3rd blueboard. So a double bass could then be on another ipad.
Its because it needs its own bow and own screen keyboard to that of another violin or cello.
So resizing these apps etc wouldnt be good live if on same ipad.
But will be ok otherwise.
Not buying another just for a bass violin to be on a different ipad.
Also got generator apps coming from drum ipad to synth ipad.
Having a whole screen to tweak generator whilst another full screen for synth.
Id buy a 2k pair of headphones instead of a field.
The field although unheard
Would just offer a few hip hop stems that id blend with ios anyway
Or a washy tape thing that Id want ios fx on
At most.
An outdoor music making device.
Op-z has tape FX but records midi as sequencer….but it’s tape FX are stronger than the op1f
And what you can do with the field is almost limitless sigma, without a doubt best piece of gear you can drop $2k on. Even if just for hip hop……
(Anyway the op1F+ op-z = PERFEct closed ecosystem )
Never heard the field so probably best to not comment.
Another IOS tip is when you have gained audio past 16 bars.
Slice with neon and trigger within a Drambo pattern based eco system.
Maybe ideal for editing
Then just load the unsliced original when done.
Nice job!
Loopy pro is the best host for iOS apps for so many reasons! It gives you your own personal daw basically.
I forgot in loopy you can set up triggers to open and close apps and basically do anything imaginable. Especially with being able to set up several pages that do different things..
Loopy is the op1 of iOS for sure! Great work on that i might attempt something similar soon.
I’m using loopy pro often to sample from my op1 and to sample into op1f