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Audio Editor with best Spectrogram view?
Hey crowdz,
I'd like to hear about which iOS audio editor in your opinion has the best / fastest / most useful spectrogram view? i.e. where you have the frequencies on the Y axis and time on the X axis, which most of the time is far more useful for audio editing than a waveform view. Something like this:
Asking for a friend.
Thanks!
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On iOS, I've never seen anything close to dedicated desktop apps.
And I cannot confirm that editing in spectral view is any good - great for finding the right spots to edit indeed, but the precision is only in the waveform view, naturally.
Not iOS, but FL Studio Edison is my favorite. You should be able to find plenty of screenshots if you're interested.
I will say that I love some things in particular about TB Spectrogram - it has a piano keyboard representation along the left-hand side for eyeballing pitch, and when you drag your finger along the spectrum, it displays the note name and the frequency! I also like the selectable themes. Oh ... and it's free.
That screenshot looks great! 😎
Yes that's true, I thought mostly of navigating the audio, not editing. Although for most "everyday" edits, the spectral view is probably also okayish, but obviously not for cycle-precise loop cutting etc.
Alright. I'm looking for an audio editor, to see how it feels to navigate the spectrum view, the precision, etc... just curious if my concoction I came up with yesterday is good enough for releasing it in an update or if I should keep it to myself
There is this:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/57433/media-assistant-spectral-audio-editing-test/p1
Auditor should be pretty good for that purpose.
I think it is definitely good enough. I especially like the split view. The spectral visual aid, combined with the waveform view for precision, though I can't tell how well it holds up under zoom of course.
Add a frequency / note display when you move your finger around the view (forget the piano roll, it's too tiny to be useful) would put it over the top IMO.
Thanks! Oof, 158 MB... OK, I'll somehow push through 😂 installing!
Yes I like the split view too. The waveform view is far too tall anyway for most purposes, there's not such an amount of vertical precision needed there, so it makes sense to split between a short waveform view and a taller spectrum view where vertical precision is crucial (horizontal less so).
I'll check out Media Assistant now.
Yes that is a very good idea, along with a Tuning slider in the "View" menu so you can adjust your A in case you're one of those oddballs with a 432 Hz tinfoil hat 😃
Here's a bit of random zooming and panning around (this is on a relatively recent entry-level desktop machine, probably much slower than recent iPads... so it might be OK!)
@SevenSystems looks functional and posh. That song choice “taters” - lol
Ocenaudio (desktop app) has this. Although the spectral view does not seem to adjust resolution when you zoom in.
It doesn't because shortening the fft length would reduce the spectral resolution, which is likely not what you want...
Ocenaudio is great btw!
A fast, compact and powerful audio editor like the old Adobe Audition V1 which was much more efficient than the later Adobe versions in many ways. They even removed some important features over the years 😅
Reminds me of Poseidon Synth.
Now that would be some eye candy!
Media Assistant is probably supergreat, but, if I choose the full features it’s over $50…
For a desktop app, no problem, but on iOS is $50 pretty much although it’s certainly a great app.
I get your point, a single $50 app is something you would have to think twice about. It's better to think of each IAP as a separate app and just purchase the ones you need. At the moment it's quite unique as the only app that can do spectral editing on iOS that I am aware of - until Meow gets it @SevenSystems
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Media assistent only seems to support very simplistic spectral editing without any support for harmonics etc. which doesn't help much in real world sounds.
The example video on the Appstore could be done just as easily in waveform view btw 😉
😄 Yeah I grabbed just whatever happened to be in my "Drop Folder", but I agree it's great 😁 (I can only show the whole song once I've moved...)
I had a look at Media Assistant -- while it looks technically good, the UI seems to be a bit thrown-together... I'm definitely planning on a slightly more elegant look and feel in my spectral editing adventures 🤷♀
Oh right now I'm only talking about a spectral view, but spectral editing is also on my personal wishlist. I have various ideas for types of brushes, editing parameters etc... if I only had time and money for all of that 🙄 Implementing a proper (fast, well-designed, useful, etc.) spectral view has taken me about 20 hours, so even with a modest Irish wage of 50 EUR / hour, that would require 1000 EUR... I don't think the IAP will bring in that amount of money even after a whole year 🥴
@wim should be happy!
Now just a little Kickstarter for raising the 1000 EUR and I'll release it as a free update 😃😃😃 😉
Not for nothing but I think $50 for an iOS app that is desktop level quality /1:1 port is totally fine with me as long as it’s worth it (like Cubasis 3 or Axe edit iii or staffpad)
But back to your question, I thought toneboosters had something like this. No? If I’m wrong my bad
This idea that iOS apps should be cheaper has never made any sense to me. Frankly, I think it holds the entire iOS music space back. I’d rather developers charge full price and give us everything they've got, instead of holding back to please those who undervalue the platform and just want cheap apps.
TB Spectrogram has a nice one. That's not in the context of an editor though.
yessir! I am.
You should totally try that. I'd be in. How to get enough attention for it would be the challenge.
Thought I'd check this out. Media Assistant is pretty basic but does show harmonic series (Pure Piano playing an A3 (220 Hz)) - definitely not as pretty as this app.
Oh you have that cut-off yellow "..." button on the left too in Media Assistant? I thought it was a bug 😂
I'd prefer CDJ style waveforms, where you can make out the frequencies in the waveform on the track itself.
Meow is probably a desktop-quality app yes 😊 has full mouse and keyboard [shortcut] support. Although it hasn't been officially released on any desktop platform yet because of the frustration involved in publishing on those platforms. But you can already use it to its full potential on iPad with a connected mouse and keyboard.
It looks like it's not an audio editor, but only a realtime visualization plug-in.
Thanks. I guess attention is the problem in general. I mean Meow isn't selling only 15 units per month because it's so BAD 😁 (hopefully 🥴)
That's an interesting way to combine waveform and spectral view into one, but I'm not entirely sure how it works intuitively? i.e. how are the frequencies displayed? Are they just separated into three bands and then shown in different colors? That's definitely interesting for a DJ app but probably not accurate enough for most "scientific" or general editing / navigational purposes...
Yeah they're just three different bands I think. I guess you could display three or four on a high level, when zoomed out, and then reveal more bands as you zoom into the track.