My Drambo Patches - MIDI stuff so far

tyslothrop1

Hallo dear Drambros and sisters,

I posted this in another thread and was encouraged to maybe share it in a separate thread, so here it is.

Oh Snap! Is a drum sequencer inspired a bit by reactable snap. I tried to make it as intuitively playable as possible, while still having lots of control.

https://patchstorage.com/oh-snap/

tyslothrop1

Here’s a little preview of what I want to post next:

Blipsford_Baubie

Thank you for Oh Snap @tyslothrop1
This is a beautiful MIDI generator for hand drum sounds. I knew nothing of whatever the inspiration oh snap is based off of, But this is intuitively playful and expressive, and all without even having mapped to any controllers yet. To think I have this on my phone 😢

Coincidentally, I’ve been trying to learn to tap out some Cuban Bata drum rhythms as well as West Africa. I’ve also been using 4Pockets Euclidean app in polyrhythm mode to create cross-rhythms for getting some feels. 4pocket is good for me for helping me to understand the principles. I can see that Oh Snap will be very valuable to me.

I love how immediate it is to simply play and variate and also just listen to. I currently have it going to Koala but I’m thinking of eventually purchasing Digistix 2 to take advantage of the round Robin multi layer thing for added expressiveness.

I do look forward to your arp as well!
Thanks to you again!

tyslothrop1

@Blipsford_Baubie Thank you, that’s exactly what I wanted to achieve.

About round robins… I sure don’t want to keep you from buying digistix, I’m sure it’s a great app, but Drambo can do some round robin with the shot sampler. Just take a look at the first hi hat in the factory samples. If you make the waveform bigger and send it 16th at the same velocity, you see the play head jump all over the place between the slices. So I guess if you create a file with several hits and set the slices you get round robins.

I like using it with the klevgrand percussion apps, because of the round robins. Triggering the one shots in Borsta is a lot of fun and setting the triggering to unquantized in Skaka can get some really cool shaker patterns with very little effort. Ting and Slammer just work out of the box and I can’t wait for them to bring Oneshot to iOS:)

tyslothrop1

And here’s a video of reactable snap. I liked it a lot.

tyslothrop1

And here’s the Armagedgiator.

It’s an Arpeggiator that can play interesting grooves (courtesy of the Euclidean sequencer clocked by a swing time module). It gives you a static pattern via a slider, that can be modified by the xy-pad (x-axis). On top of that you can change the octave range via the y-axis.

https://patchstorage.com/armagedgiator/

Blipsford_Baubie

@tyslothrop1 said:
@Blipsford_Baubie Thank you, that’s exactly what I wanted to achieve.

About round robins… I sure don’t want to keep you from buying digistix, I’m sure it’s a great app, but Drambo can do some round robin with the shot sampler. Just take a look at the first hi hat in the factory samples. If you make the waveform bigger and send it 16th at the same velocity, you see the play head jump all over the place between the slices. So I guess if you create a file with several hits and set the slices you get round robins.

Ok, I will look into this some more, because I made a decision a while back to use Flexi for pitched material because one shot Sampler wouldn't work for my one particular use case.

I like using it with the klevgrand percussion apps, because of the round robins. Triggering the one shots in Borsta is a lot of fun and setting the triggering to unquantized in Skaka can get some really cool shaker patterns with very little effort. Ting and Slammer just work out of the box and I can’t wait for them to bring Oneshot to iOS :-)

I’ve been lusting over all of the Klevegrand apps you’ve just mentioned for quite some time, but I’m iPhone only. My only iPad is outdated, but gets used as a control surface at times.

Regarding the swing module, I’m having no problem dialing by ear, but I was trying to figure out what was going on with the two knobs, steps and steps/beat. I’m not sure I detect differences when only changing those.

I see now why reactable snap was appealing to you.

Know also that Armagediator hasn’t gone unnoticed, but Oh Snap has been getting daily use from me 😀

tyslothrop1

@Blipsford_Baubie Thanks, glad you still like it

About the swing module… I’ll try to explain, what I think I understand (I’m not much of a musictheorist and might very well be wrong).

If swing is set to zero the other 2 knobs have no effect at all. They make up the grid for the swing to operate. The default for steps/beat is 4, which means it moves on in 16th. Steps determines how many of the steps you set in steps/beat are affected by one "round". Normal 16th swing would be steps set to 2 and steps/beat to 4.

And it doesn't swing in a linear way, but rather exponentially. Try setting steps to 16, steps/beat to 4 and swing to about 9 o'clock, and give it some steady 16ths, you'll get somewhat of a bouncing ball effect, and the same thing inverted at 3 o'clock.

What I like to do is set some uneven numbers and see what only a tiny bit of swing does. I think some of the time this gives me a rather subtle humanlike groove.

If anybody can explain better, please do, I'd like to know, too!

tyslothrop1

This is a MidiRack I built to add a bit of rhythmical interest to the output of Textquencer. It works well, if you feed it straight 16ths. It lets you add Swing and sequence 1. a fixed gate pattern 2. A velocity pattern 3. A probability pattern.

https://patchstorage.com/midicarver/

tyslothrop1

This is a Generator I made, that gives you a random 8 step sequence and many playful ways to manipulate it.

https://patchstorage.com/genesequencemanipulator/

dubbub

@tyslothrop1, I just wanted to say thanks so much for your marvelous contributions.

tyslothrop1

@dubbub thank you very much:)

It's nice putting something out there and it gets me more into the zone, where I work something out, that feels a bit more finished (instead of fun but very volatile noodling with interesting, but half baked Dramboracks - I still do that a lot, but not exclusively).

tyslothrop1

I made a new video on the Genesequencemanipulator, this time with audible voiceover:)

tyslothrop1

@SinghSong said:

@tyslothrop1 said:
I made a new video on the Genesequencemanipulator, this time with audible voiceover:)

This is a really lovely piece of work. Only shame is that once you’ve dialled in a couple of instances on a handful of tracks, save the project then reopen it, Drambo doesn’t save the trigged sequence - you’re back to square one.

It’s still beautifully inspiring. You just need to remember to capture the midi or the audio in a couple of Flexi’s if you get something you like.

@rs2000 would you be up for sharing your solution for the most efficient way to capture the midi of a sequence on the same track and how to capture it on a separate track?

Hey, thank you. Happy to hear, you've got something going with it, that you wanted to save Sorry that didn't work.

About capturing the midi - wouldn't the midi sequencer -module work?

Maybe with a midi mixer with mutes after it, that you feed the original sequence and the sequencermodule, so you can switch between the two.

PapaBPoppin

Question regarding saving - would it work in Loopy Pro to save it as a user preset?

(I don't have drambo to test)

tyslothrop1

@SinghSong said:
I wonder why Drambo doesn’t State Save the trigged sequence or if there’s a method to do it?

I think it's the randomizer-module, that doesn't remember the last actual values, but only the possible ranges. I've got another very similar rack, that doesn't use a randomizer, but morphs between two sequences you can set manually. If I remember correctly that one does save it's state. I'll upload that one soon, too.

@PapaBPoppin Loopy pro can't save the preset either, nor the midi sequence so far. I'm very much looking forward to the day it gets midiloops:)

tyslothrop1

This Rack lets you input 2 8-step sequences and morph between them and add some variation.

https://patchstorage.com/sequencemorpher/

@SinghSong This one includes the sequence in state saving.

tyslothrop1

@SinghSong said:

@tyslothrop1 said:
This Rack lets you input 2 8-step sequences and morph between them and add some variation.

https://patchstorage.com/sequencemorpher/

@SinghSong This one includes the sequence in state saving.

Lovely I’ll try it out. Thank you. I’ve still been getting wonderfully lost with the OG. Just 3 different instance with 3 different sounds and a simple beat to sidechain them then Trig and Slide till you find a groove you like.

Makes me wonder if there’s a way (simple button) to randomise the Presets of the Scale module - just as a starting point to Trig through scales that you might stumble upon something unusual to kick things off.

Cool you're having fun with it.

If you mean the quantizer. You could midi map every note to a key and then send it random notes in your selected Range.

I might have an idea, how to do somethingeasy, I'll try a couple of things out.

tyslothrop1

@SinghSong You could have a rack with one instance per preset, route all those to a n-1 switch and send random values to the index.

tyslothrop1

@SinghSong said:

You make it sound so easy! Perhaps a preset randomiser module you put before a module (with presets) would be something Mr @giku_beepstreet would find interesting?

-yes, that would be a nice module, that randomly selects your presets. But in the meantime have a look at the attached midirack, just put it after the midi generator of your choice. I don’t have any quantiser presets, maybe you downloaded them from patch storage, so I put some random chords in. If you have presets, just load them in one of the eight quantisers. Adding more (I don’t know, if there’s a limitation) is easy: just add one more quantiser before the switch, press the + on the switch to add another input and press the new input, then the flashing output of the new quantiser. Load a preset and done.

I’m always fascinated to see what you Drambo experts think of to create solutions. It’s very inspiring.

Thanks, I’m flattered, but I’m by no means a Drambo expert, I only know a couple of modules well enough to have some fun ideas with them.

tyslothrop1

I made a little generative Midi=thing. It’s called the stream of unconsciousness.

https://patchstorage.com/stream-of-uncosciousness/

By the way, I’m gonna update most of the other devices soon with a couple of added features and take the work in progress badges off.

tyslothrop1

Here comes Oh Snap! 1.0

https://patchstorage.com/oh-snap/

rs2000

@SinghSong said:
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@rs2000 would you be up for sharing your solution for the most efficient way to capture the midi of a sequence on the same track and how to capture it on a separate track?

Sorry I've just seen your question now.
I would use a number of MIDI Sequencer modules on the same track, plus a few instances of MIDI tape recorder to record and export longer live sessons:

rs2000

@SinghSong said:

@rs2000 said:

@SinghSong said:
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@rs2000 would you be up for sharing your solution for the most efficient way to capture the midi of a sequence on the same track and how to capture it on a separate track?

Sorry I've just seen your question now.
I would use a number of MIDI Sequencer modules on the same track, plus a few instances of MIDI tape recorder to record and export longer live sessons:

As always, thank you 😊

You're welcome!

A little side note: When using sequencer modules on a track, tap on the mini piano roll to edit the sequence of that module.
You can use as many sequencer modules on a track as you like, and switch between sequences like this, for example:

tyslothrop1

I updated the genesequencemanipulator.

Get it here:
https://patchstorage.com/genesequencemanipulator/