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Off Topic: Android 5.0 Lollipop ushers in the new era of Android with a design overhaul
Low latency audio is one of the things mentioned. :-) Things are getting interesting! :-)
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Direct quote: Improved multimedia performance, including lower latency audio and USB audio accessory support.
And so it begins...
Wouldn't it be interesting if Google was able to offer reliable audio and MIDI routing on android? Do you think there would be a migration?
Depends on the software available, I think. The apps that are developed.
If the number of apps available on the Android matched what is available on the iPad, I would say, YES. There would be a definite migration of at least some of the people! @johnfromberkeley The hardware is cheaper and the platform is more open. But they've got to get that latency way, way down, and get the USB support way, way up. :-)
Specialist music pads running integrated software kits, specially designed for different music specialisms...
The Sample Pad... Designed for loop based music production, pre loaded with audio editor, loop performance tools, sample friendly database structure, multi channel audio based DAW with VST plug in support etc
The Studio Pad... Reason-type rack emulation environment etc
The Analogue Pad... Jammed full of emulations of all your favourite classics, built around a step sequencer / mixer combo with oodles of effect modules
The Band Pad.. Optimised for live recording and performance.. Multiple in and outs as standard
Etc etc
Imagine a forward thinking manufacture putting out a pad with multiple mini-USBs... And an OS that can run drivers compatible with standard audio and MIDI interfaces.
Open architecture opens doors.
If the apps were available on Android, I would definately jump over. I hate itunes . I hate having to connect the ipad to itunes on my pc just to transfer music ,photos, anything. I have an iPhone, and would definately never have another one. I'm going back to an android phone when my contract allows me , and if i had another choice for music apps, then ...I'm gone. Bring it on Android/Google. PLEASE
If Apple keep messing things up every time they update the ios I wouldn't be surprised if most of us will be on Android within the next couple of years.
If they really lower the audio latency in "L", G-Stomper Studio is alone a reason to get an Android device. There is no comparable app in the iOS world.
Well the star of the show is the nexus 9
So smaller screen than iPad Air.
Available in 16 or 32g versions. So less memory and no SD card option
Add that to the fact that I would have to pay to replace all my apps (less the app regrets ones of course and assuming they are even available)
Overall I think I will pass.
Love that we have options. That's only going to benefit all of us in the long run. But I doubt that Android is going to knock midi and all of the other stuff out of the park on the first swing. Who knows though. I'm a slave to music. Not platforms. Show me the next great thing and I'm all over it.
^^ yep
@BiancaNeve said:
Obviously the star of the music production show would not be a device with those specs.
Straw man argument...
Not a straw man argument nexus 9 is the largest tablet in the line up hence the nearest competitor to ipad air2.
No point comparing hypothetical machines.
There are definitely advances being made, we'll be showing near-zero latency on Android (4.0 and up, even) at NAMM 2015: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=5235
This is not the Samsung Professional Audio SDK support we've already shown and is available, either.
What?! 2ms round trip..... that would be faster than my MacBook pro on 32 samples! Most important.... will it be a kind of audio interface (hardware) or software solution. However, things sounds good and i would be happy to use a Android device for my mobile needs (the note 4 is nice).
We will have more specifics closer to and it will be available to try at NAMM
Too far from home
Will looking forward to the NAMM show. I think this year will be a nice year for music production.....
Good luck with it.....
Obviously preaching to the converted here, but the iOS naysayers - many of which are Android users who love making music on desktops and laptops and would love to have that functionality in a mobile device - are missing the point. The argument was never that Apple had the fastest or "best" devices on the market. Any knowledgeable Apple user knows that and would be the first to complain if Apple's iDevice specs fall too far behind the competition.
But the App Store remains superior to Google/Android because Apple has basically one interface that applies across all its non-obsolete devices. So long as you replace your device every two or three years (which most people do willingly with phones anyway) - you can see a TV commercial for an app and know that your device will run it and do so reasonably well.
This is critical for iOS music for many reasons, but two come to mind immediately. One, independent developers, which are the real strength of iOS music, can be sure that there is a least a potential audience for their new app. Whether the goal is to monetize the efforts or simply to create something that people will use and enjoy, iOS is still the best mobile place to do that. Two
That all being said, competition is only good, and power to you if you use Android devices to make music. Apple needs keep improving the specs on these new devices (I haven't looked into an Air 2 seriously, but I didn't get the sense people were exactly "blown away" by performance), but the counter-punch to that is not me blowing everything up and abandoning 100's of dollars of apps and equipment to use a different device.
Finally some competition....maybe this is the kick up the arse Apple need to develop iOS in terms of the flaky IAA
....at least give us an implementation that recalls the setup/state of the IAA apps and also let's use use multiples of the same app....
I suspect the 2ms low latency will apply only to high end android tablets on specific vendors...hope I'm wrong and finally a 100$ quad-core tablet beats the competition...
@Korakios said:
IK Multimedia news said:
From http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=5235
@StormJH1: I would agree with all you said but it's also hard to "trust" apple and especially iOS in long term using. Sure it will be still the king for this year and maybe next year. But all this hardware and software issues i had proven me to not buy any music related app since weeks (or months). Still have all the apple devices (MacBook Pro, iPad Air, iPhone 5). But it's not all that magic like it was a few years ago.
That said i trust in the developers which makes this platform so awesome. I'm just really a bit scared to buy more apps and then all is broken again in some months. Not that this can't happen with Android devices too
Booth platforms have their plus and minus!
My phones have always been android — mostly SonyEricsson — and my impression of android as a platform is that it is not particularly unified. Other people with other android phones see a completely different looking device to mine, I can’t find my way round theirs, it's like a totally different platform much of the time. Different phones seem to be constantly in a different state of updated-ness. I've see the same app run completely differently on one android device to another: Kosmische Synthesizer for example, on a Samsung tablet the type only shows the middle portions of the words whereas on my Xperia phone, you see all of the words and they fit within the boxes. How can such a discrepancy even be possible?
Plus, I've bought many apps on the iPad but have never paid any money on android - only ever downloading free apps, and this is largely the experience I see in other people I know, too.
@ikmultimedia I've read the news you linked ,too good to be true. If the solution is universal and there is no hardware incompatibility like the early PC days ,it's at least great news...
We will show it at NAMM and it will be both very good and very true that Android will have a way to make music at near-zero latency. We're not too far away from NAMM so you should have more details soon.