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Using iPhone as microphone for vocals?
Hey all, I'm in a bit of a bind so I thought I'd ask the always supportive and helpful Audiobus gang for help. Basically I am trying to record vocals for a demo song by this weekend. I have no condenser mics, only a cheap SM 57, a Focusrite itrack solo and Macbook. Also the room I'm recording in sounds like shit. So I have already accepted the fact that the vocals will not be as good as they could be (so please no criticisms of situation as I already know the shortcomings). Tried using the SM57 last night and just did not sound good, even after adding fx.
So I was thinking of using some microphone app (if there is one) maybe some sort of mic simulator, kinda like the guitar amp simulators, and then plugging an 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch cable from iphone into focusrite preamp to record into ableton.
Thoughts gentlemen/gentlewomen?
Thanks in advance!
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Use your 57. Lots of great vocals cut on 57's. Maybe move to a better environment. I recorded a lead vocal in a van (with a singer who can sing! Not me) while it was traveling on the highway and I have no complaints about the sound. Used a sennheiser 835 (I think that's the number- their 58 price range equivalent) And I just heard a Jackson Brown song from running on empty that was recorded on the bus, you can hear the engine the whole time and a big downshift in gears during the bridge- it's an awesome song with great feel, and that's the vibe.
Now, can you use an iPhone? Sure. I'd just record it to audio share and export it, no reason to involve the focusrite. If you use audiobus into audio share you can turn on measurement mode and get rid of the auto gain and high pass filter on the iPhone mic.
Oh, and you can try this:
It makes it a much fuller mic, I love mine. It took only a few minutes, very easy. It needs more gain without the transformer, but the itrack solo should be absolutely fine with it (shooting for -18 I hope!).
That Jackson Browne track also used a cardboard box with a drum pedal attached for the kick drum...
That SM57 mod is interesting and certainly changes the character of the mic. There are a number of youtube videos with before and after samples.
Thnx mrufino1! Much appreciated. I will give all those suggestions a try. Also very cool note regarding Jackson Browne. Will def check that out.
EDIT: wow, just watched the youtube vid. That seems like a lot of work to make it sound like an sm7. Does it sound that much better? Also he mentions that it makes lows sound lower and highs much higher. So unless our singer sings like Barry White or a soprano, this might not be the best sound since vocals generally live in the midrange, no?
Will give the measurement mode and high pass filter idea a try. Thnx again for your help
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Yes, it makes a huge difference. They're not referring to the notes you record with it. I think the transformer removal is well worth it and it's very easy. I don't really use a stock 57 for much, but I like the modded one.
I had the pleasure of using an sm7 this summer (through a focusrite interface)- awesome vocal mic, the modded 57 is similar.
Oh, and yes, cardboard box kick drum, played by Jim keltner, who made it musical. The ultimate audiobus perhaps? ;-)
I read somewhere that the singer from Chairlift recorded an entire album using the mic built into her laptop. Use what ya got.
@Matthew said:
No idea what mic she's using here, but her vocals sound great:
I record my guitar with the iPad mic all the time, sometimes capturing the performance is all that matters
Yes. I just wouldn't connect it from the headphone out into the focusrite. The iPhone mic is pretty good, especially in measurement mode. Record the audio in the iPhone if you wish then transfer it to your other system.
@mrufino1 said:
Good advice. Also, spend some time playing around with mic positioning. Not only you relative to the mic but the mic relative to your walls.
Hey thanks for the feedback guys. Much appreciated. Yeah, I actually realized last night that part of the reason the vocals were not sounding as bright was due to proximity effect so by just having the singer sing a little further way, sounded a lot better. But I also went ahead and purchased the $20 vocalive app and the iphone sounded a lot better, even before the compression and de-esser that the app provides. So at least to my ears, the iphone won out over an sm-57. As for laptop speakers, funny that was mentioned as I was going to try that route too but the iphone seemed to work just fine. Thnx again all
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