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Rozeta Bass inside of AUM

Hello everyone! I’m trying to get the keyboard that comes with it, to run through Rozeta to an Audio Unit synth.I’m not sure how to do this.

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  • Hey the keyboard that comes with what ? And what unit in Rozeta suite ? :)

  • There’s a keyboard within AUM. I connect it to the synth directly and there is sound. But when I connect it to Rozzeta Bassline there is no sound I think Rozeta is connected to the synth.

  • Are you hoping to use AUMs keyboard to transpose the Rozeta Bassline sequence and it is sequencing a synth? I’ve never used a keyboard with Rozeta Bassline.

  • wimwim
    edited August 10

    @Komeda said:
    Hello everyone! I’m trying to get the keyboard that comes with it, to run through Rozeta to an Audio Unit synth.I’m not sure how to do this.

    Unless I'm misunderstanding, I assume you mean the keyboard that comes with AUM. Rozeta Bassline doesn't come with a keyboard.

    Rozeta Baseline doesn't pass midi through. The only thing it can do with the AUM keyboard in Rozeta is transpose patterns by semitones.

    To do what you want, just route the AUM keyboard to the synth you want to play.

  • Thanks! Your help is much appreciated. :smiley:

  • Hey guys. another question if I may. Is there anyway to record the MIDI of Bassline Generator, either inside of AUM, or some other DAW? Thanks.

  • wimwim
    edited August 17

    @SinghSong said:
    Is there a knack to getting Rozeta Bassline to play an instrument? I’ve connected everything up as usual in AUM (and Drambo as an alternative test) but Rozeta Bassline is not triggering the instrument in either. In both instances the keyboard or pads is triggering the instruments. Just not Rozeta

    Nothing special is needed.

    Are you sure the transport is running in Bassline? The Auto Play button should be Green, AUM's transport should be running, and you should see the playhead moving. And of course, you need to enter some notes.

    Connecting the AUM keyboard in Bassline will not do anything other than to transpose the patterns or trigger patterns (see the MIDI control settings dialog). It doesn't pass keyboard through to plugins. It only sends notes out from the sequencer.

  • Is there anyway to record Bassline’s MIDI?

  • wimwim
    edited August 17

    @Komeda said:
    Is there anyway to record Bassline’s MIDI?

    What host are you using?

    If not using a DAW, you can send the output to any app that can record midi. Midi Tape Recorder, Atom Pianoroll 2, LoopBud, Drambo, and Xequence 2 are a few apps that come to mind.

    Most DAWs can record the output from AUv3 apps.

  • wimwim
    edited August 17

    @SinghSong said:

    @wim said:

    @SinghSong said:
    Is there a knack to getting Rozeta Bassline to play an instrument? I’ve connected everything up as usual in AUM (and Drambo as an alternative test) but Rozeta Bassline is not triggering the instrument in either. In both instances the keyboard or pads is triggering the instruments. Just not Rozeta

    Nothing special is needed.

    Are you sure the transport is running in Bassline? The Auto Play button should be Green, AUM's transport should be running, and you should see the playhead moving. And of course, you need to enter some notes.

    Connecting the AUM keyboard in Bassline will not do anything other than to transpose the patterns or trigger patterns (see the MIDI control settings dialog). It doesn't pass keyboard through to plugins. It only sends notes out from the sequencer.

    Hi, yes to all those. Just getting no sound out other than through the AUM keyboard.

    You don't have any notes activated in your sequence.
    You've placed the pitch, but you need to tap on the notes to get a "circle" on the ones you want to play. A highlighted circle indicates an accented note. Tapping between the notes links them with a slide.

  • Great! I'm glad it's working for you now @SinghSong . 👍🏼

  • Hey Wim. Thanks for your suggestions. Any favorite for this kind of thing? Do you know that would work in AUM? Thanks.

  • wimwim
    edited August 18

    @Komeda said:
    Hey Wim. Thanks for your suggestions. Any favorite for this kind of thing? Do you know that would work in AUM? Thanks.

    All of those will work in AUM. It's hard to recommend something, not knowing what someone else would prefer.

    • Atom 2 has a terrific piano roll with tons of features. As such it can have a bit of a learning curve. It's no longer under development, but works wonderfully.
    • Midi Tape Recorder is very solid and has the advantage of being the most accurate AUv3 recorder for intense midi such as the output from Animoog Z and MPE controllers. There's no editing at all though.
    • LoopBud is straightforward from what I can see. However, my first quick test with BassLine did not go well. Could be user error, but very few notes from Bassline were actually recorded(!).

      • [edit] I finally discovered that StepBud has a problem when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Other than that it works well.
    • Drambo is my favorite (aside from the upcoming Loopy Pro MIDI capability), but might be overly intimidating when you first look at it.

    • Xequence 2 is the best darn midi sequencer there is IMO, but is a standalone app. It can be used fine with AUM, but being a separate app kind of puts it out of the running for many people's preferred workflow.

    As you can see, there are none that don't have some kind of drawback.
    There are lots of threads on the forum where people discuss sequencers at length. Your head may swim.

  • Thanks for your replies. So in AUM, would I load one of those apps on a track, and then run Bassline’s MIDI out into it? Would I be able to hear it?

  • @Komeda said:
    Thanks for your replies. So in AUM, would I load one of those apps on a track, and then run Bassline’s MIDI out into it? Would I be able to hear it?

    You'd route Bassline to the recorder and the recorder to the synth. Most apps will send the midi through by default or have an option to do so.

  • wimwim
    edited August 18

    @Komeda - earlier I found that LoopBud didn't record well from Bassline. I've since found that it only stumbles when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Below that it works fine and is a nice, straightforward little note recorder.

    It doesn't record MIDI CC's though. Only notes.

  • @wim said:
    @Komeda - earlier I found that LoopBud didn't record well from Bassline. I've since found that it only stumbles when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Below that it works fine and is a nice, straightforward little note recorder.

    Wim, I'm curious: would you bother using Loopbud if you have, and know how to use, Atom2?

  • wimwim
    edited August 18

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    @Komeda - earlier I found that LoopBud didn't record well from Bassline. I've since found that it only stumbles when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Below that it works fine and is a nice, straightforward little note recorder.

    Wim, I'm curious: would you bother using Loopbud if you have, and know how to use, Atom2?

    tbh, probably not.

    One thing I've never got along with is how it always loops back to the beginning while recording. If you have it set to "New" it clears the pattern on each loop. If you have it set to Add and the sequence you're trying to capture from something like Bassline varies at all on the next pass, you get more notes than you want. I think it really, really needs a one-pass recording mode. Things like that are easy in Atom 2.

    Another thing is LoopBud continues to pass midi through during playback. So you need to stop Bassline or other sequencers or you get doubled up notes. It needs to have an option to turn passthru off.

    To be fair, LoopBud seems to be focused toward capturing live playing, not sequencers. But that also brings up the other big limitation - it's for notes only.

    I thought to recommend it because for someone just starting out Atom 2 is pretty intimidating and though I like it, I find Midi Tape Recorder awkward somehow. Then there are all the others that have way, way more to them than just capturing some midi.

  • edited August 18

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    @Komeda - earlier I found that LoopBud didn't record well from Bassline. I've since found that it only stumbles when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Below that it works fine and is a nice, straightforward little note recorder.

    Wim, I'm curious: would you bother using Loopbud if you have, and know how to use, Atom2?

    tbh, probably not.

    One thing I've never got along with is how it always loops back to the beginning while recording. If you have it set to "New" it clears the pattern on each loop. If you have it set to Add and the sequence you're trying to capture from something like Bassline varies at all on the next pass, you get more notes than you want. I think it really, really needs a one-pass recording mode. Things like that are easy in Atom 2.

    Another thing is LoopBud continues to pass midi through during playback. So you need to stop Bassline or other sequencers or you get doubled up notes. It needs to have an option to turn passthru off.

    To be fair, LoopBud seems to be focused toward capturing live playing, not sequencers. But that also brings up the other big limitation - it's for notes only.

    I thought to recommend it because for someone just starting out Atom 2 is pretty intimidating and though I like it, I find Midi Tape Recorder awkward somehow. Then there are all the others that have way, way more to them than just capturing some midi.

    Thanks for that! I'll stick to Atom2, I guess. I agree about Midi Tape Recorder, it's great, seems to be the reliable go-to for mpe, but it is a bit unintuitive, even if you learn how to use it, it seems easy to forget some aspects unless using regularly.

  • @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    @Komeda - earlier I found that LoopBud didn't record well from Bassline. I've since found that it only stumbles when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Below that it works fine and is a nice, straightforward little note recorder.

    Wim, I'm curious: would you bother using Loopbud if you have, and know how to use, Atom2?

    tbh, probably not.

    One thing I've never got along with is how it always loops back to the beginning while recording. If you have it set to "New" it clears the pattern on each loop. If you have it set to Add and the sequence you're trying to capture from something like Bassline varies at all on the next pass, you get more notes than you want. I think it really, really needs a one-pass recording mode. Things like that are easy in Atom 2.

    Another thing is LoopBud continues to pass midi through during playback. So you need to stop Bassline or other sequencers or you get doubled up notes. It needs to have an option to turn passthru off.

    To be fair, LoopBud seems to be focused toward capturing live playing, not sequencers. But that also brings up the other big limitation - it's for notes only.

    I thought to recommend it because for someone just starting out Atom 2 is pretty intimidating and though I like it, I find Midi Tape Recorder awkward somehow. Then there are all the others that have way, way more to them than just capturing some midi.

    The undo button at the bottom toolbar can bring back the previous recording if you lost it on the new cycle.

  • @cem_olcay said:

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    @Komeda - earlier I found that LoopBud didn't record well from Bassline. I've since found that it only stumbles when AUM buffer size is set to 2048 frames. Below that it works fine and is a nice, straightforward little note recorder.

    Wim, I'm curious: would you bother using Loopbud if you have, and know how to use, Atom2?

    tbh, probably not.

    One thing I've never got along with is how it always loops back to the beginning while recording. If you have it set to "New" it clears the pattern on each loop. If you have it set to Add and the sequence you're trying to capture from something like Bassline varies at all on the next pass, you get more notes than you want. I think it really, really needs a one-pass recording mode. Things like that are easy in Atom 2.

    Another thing is LoopBud continues to pass midi through during playback. So you need to stop Bassline or other sequencers or you get doubled up notes. It needs to have an option to turn passthru off.

    To be fair, LoopBud seems to be focused toward capturing live playing, not sequencers. But that also brings up the other big limitation - it's for notes only.

    I thought to recommend it because for someone just starting out Atom 2 is pretty intimidating and though I like it, I find Midi Tape Recorder awkward somehow. Then there are all the others that have way, way more to them than just capturing some midi.

    The undo button at the bottom toolbar can bring back the previous recording if you lost it on the new cycle.

    Nice! That's great.

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