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Beatmaker 3 record MIDI CC automation?
Hi guys. I'm trying to get Beatmaker 3 to record knob movements (midi cc) from an external synth (Syntakt) as automation clips and then send the automation back to control Syntakt when pressing play. Is this possible? Can it be done without having to map a controller to macros and just have BM3 record whatever knob movements are made?
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Not exactly a useful comment here but I'd use Modstep for this myself.
Thanks for the suggestion, I wanted to get it. But I keep trying to google it and the app store pages for it never load. Is it still available for purchase?
Same for me. "Not available in your region." It may have been removed from the AppStore; seems to be happening lately.
Damn that was a really good MIDI clip launcher. Fortunately I have it installed on an older iPad, so I can extract the MIDI from my projects.
You should be able to install Modstep from 'my purchases' on any iPad you own. Still works great on my M1 for hardware sequencing but sadly loading AU just crashes.
didn’t appear at all in purchases when my device thought he was in Iceland (where I am). VPN’d a Los Angeles ping, and got this…
alas
So for anyone wondering how to do this, I've asked on discord and it seems you have to map the Macros to the knobs on the synths, but you are limited to only 16 macros.
So I've found a workaround using Imaginando LK, just use it as a midi effect in whatever DAW you use and after routing things properly it will record incoming MIDI cc and can send them back to the synth. Best part is you can just disable the plugin to disable automation
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This setup with BM3 pretty much replaces having to buy an MPC to complement my Elektron boxes.
Oh crap! Glad I got it on my M1 in time.
if only "this item is being modified" was true....
They did talk about a Modstep 2. It's posssible for sure. They seemed like cool folks.
Last mention was in 2018. Just sayin' ...
[correction] Last mention Feb 2020 on their forum:
https://community.zerodebug.com/t/is-modstep-discontinued/1215/4
http://www.modstep.net is reachable, but is a totally empty site. Not even a lick of html code on the page.
Eh, pesky old father time. One day I'll get that next album done too... you'll see. I'll show you all what old Gus can do! Eventually. I give ios devs a ton of slack now, given that incentives are pretty much in the same realm. Plus there was a pesky pandemic, maybe that threw a wrench in things.
Just turn on automation recording and record it live.
BM3 DOES record automation from the plugin UI and most plugins do work. I haven’t noticed any plugin that doesn’t tbh.
And learn the difference between recording modulation(automation recorded to a pattern/sequence) or automation(linear timeline) in BM3.
@bargale - they're trying to record MIDI CC's coming from an external synth, not AU plugin automation.
Gotcha and just tested it.
It’s broken but used to work with a blank/silenced sample on a pad and now it doesn’t receive midi cc at all.
Updates taking away features 🫣
Maybe it's a good thing after all that there haven't been any updates for a long time. 😉
Thanks for testing @bargale. I forgot about the empty sample workaround from long ago.
If your hardware synth is sending MIDI CC, just record the midi into beatmaker. Beatmaker has no trouble that i can see recording and playing back midi cc's in its sequencer. I did a quick test recording cc's i sent from loopy pro. It played them back just fine
How did you send the midi to BM3, and where did you record it to? Was Loopy hosted in BM3 or standalone?
The question is about recording cc's from external hardware, so I'm looking for how you did it to test the same from a midi controller.
I was running loopy standalone and send the midi ccs to loopy's virtual midi port. i set beatmaker up to listen to loopy pro's modi port. i set up a bank in BM3 to listen to loopy pro and send its output to loopy pro and recorded into beatmaker's piano roll. the same setup would work receiving and sending to an external midi port
Thanks.
they di seem cool
got it back, VPN did the trick
now working through my IAs, trying to find ones that work with modstep inside Multitrack DAW
Thanks for the tips but I'm trying to record an external hardware synth which also happens to send midi cc whenever a parameter is tweaked (not an Auv3). With the intent of recording knob tweaks performances as automation that gets sent back to the synth. Last I tried, this doesn't get recorded into BM3 unless the cc are manually mapped to macros. Problem is there are only 16 macros and one synth has 12 audio tracks and the second has 4. So one macro per track just isn't enough. Unless I've missed some other way to record external cc messages?
I did try this but it didn't record anything, wonder if I was doing something wrong? Maybe I had the synth MIDI settings set wrong, I'll give it another try.
May I ask what setting needs to be activated (and where it is) to listen to an external midi source?
There is a global midi settings tab in BM3's settings. Each track/pad also has MIDI init and output settings.