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hey people- I'm sorry I got that thread closed!

Hello AB folks,
Especially @Dham
I mentioned something in the medieval thread I shouldn't have mentioned, and now that thread got closed. I didn't mean to cause trouble, apologies, it was a fine thread, r.i.p.

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  • It wouldn't be a thread about Teenage Engineering if it didn't eventually get closed. 😂

  • @wim said:
    It wouldn't be a thread about Teenage Engineering if it didn't eventually get closed. 😂

    hahaha ^^ this

  • @abf, lol, mate, just consider it a rite by circumcision. I once was accused of kind of calling someone a pedophile (it was supposed to be a joke to make a point, but was, indeed, a BIG mistake), and I’m still here.

  • @abf said:
    Hello AB folks,
    Especially @Dham
    I mentioned something in the medieval thread I shouldn't have mentioned, and now that thread got closed. I didn't mean to cause trouble, apologies, it was a fine thread, r.i.p.

    I wouldn’t worry, others have done similar things and not faced the ‘plank’.

  • With a handle like yours, I’d constantly be looking over my shoulders. You know all the OGs are mad at themselves for not thinking of that name first. So don’t take it personal, they just wanna rock the rights to your AudioBusForum.

  • edited August 2024

    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

  • @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

  • I just want to be clear about something everyone.
    There are now more moderators and another administrator.
    It wasn’t me that closed that particular thread.

  • @thesoundtestroom said:
    I just want to be clear about something everyone.
    There are now more moderators and another administrator.
    It wasn’t me that closed that particular thread.

    Thanks Doug. I’m glad to hear there’s more help for the forum. Who are the new moderators/admin?

  • @gusgranite said:

    @thesoundtestroom said:
    I just want to be clear about something everyone.
    There are now more moderators and another administrator.
    It wasn’t me that closed that particular thread.

    Thanks Doug. I’m glad to hear there’s more help for the forum. Who are the new moderators/admin?

    🤔

  • @Gavinski said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

    Sampling/ripping sounds from hardware grooveboxes and sharing them isn't really piracy to begin with, even if he'd had dropped a link it likely wouldn't be piracy. Groovebox and synth samples are part of music production culture!

    People who get those samples don't stop gassing after the originals, it's basically just an appetizer for the curious.

    I'm going to drop some links now to community sites with sounds sampled from grooveboxes to prove my point:

    https://legowelt.org/samples/

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

    The last one is around for almost 30 years.

  • Hyperreal – now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long while (from my days on Analogue Heaven mailing list)

  • @u0421793 said:
    Hyperreal – now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long while

    "Hyperreal – now that’s a name I've not heard in a long time" Correct it for you. :)

  • @Artj said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Hyperreal – now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long while

    "Hyperreal – now that’s a name I've not heard in a long time" Correct it for you. :)

    Talking of Alec Guinness, I reviewed a film he was in — Kind Hearts and Coronets — a while back
    https://www.youtube.com/live/PJ-OoXeJvFI?si=SqFVkvgtBQpZOD-J

  • @thesoundtestroom said:
    I just want to be clear about something everyone.
    There are now more moderators and another administrator.
    It wasn’t me that closed that particular thread.

    There may be other moderators but there’s one one. Soundtestroom!

  • @abf said:
    Hello AB folks,
    Especially @Dham
    I mentioned something in the medieval thread I shouldn't have mentioned, and now that thread got closed. I didn't mean to cause trouble, apologies, it was a fine thread, r.i.p.

    No worries. I'm sure there will be more specialized TE samplers in the future. Let's hope and pray a 70's Cop Show model is released soon..........

  • @LinearLineman said:

    @thesoundtestroom said:
    I just want to be clear about something everyone.
    There are now more moderators and another administrator.
    It wasn’t me that closed that particular thread.

    There may be other moderators but there’s one one. Soundtestroom!

    This could be a job for @Artj 😀

  • @kirmesteggno said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

    Sampling/ripping sounds from hardware grooveboxes and sharing them isn't really piracy to begin with, even if he'd had dropped a link it likely wouldn't be piracy. Groovebox and synth samples are part of music production culture!

    People who get those samples don't stop gassing after the originals, it's basically just an appetizer for the curious.

    I'm going to drop some links now to community sites with sounds sampled from grooveboxes to prove my point:

    https://legowelt.org/samples/

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

    The last one is around for almost 30 years.

    If it's that simple, why have Roland Corp. hunting other companies using theirs samples like Rebirth and so on?

    A newly released product or and old hardware product - it's a big difference, very big difference...

  • edited August 2024

    @HolyMoses said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

    Sampling/ripping sounds from hardware grooveboxes and sharing them isn't really piracy to begin with, even if he'd had dropped a link it likely wouldn't be piracy. Groovebox and synth samples are part of music production culture!

    People who get those samples don't stop gassing after the originals, it's basically just an appetizer for the curious.

    I'm going to drop some links now to community sites with sounds sampled from grooveboxes to prove my point:

    https://legowelt.org/samples/

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

    The last one is around for almost 30 years.

    If it's that simple, why have Roland Corp. hunting other companies using theirs samples like Rebirth and so on?

    A newly released product or and old hardware product - it's a big difference, very big difference...

    People/companies like Goldbaby live from sampling drum machines. I think there's a difference if you sample the sounds from the machine, or if you extract the encoded data from the machine itself and plant it into a similar environment/fx stage, which would be illegal like distributing roms for video game emulators.

    TE samples run through an fx stage on the device afaik. If you could extract the raw sample data somehow it wouldn't sound anything like it. That's why I'm sure that it's just sampled from the groovebox which I believe is legal because it's an instrument.

    It's a bit like selling results from using a tool/"instrument" like Photoshop vs. reselling a cracked copy of Photoshop itself, or selling images from you playing Super Mario vs. the actual game as a rom.

  • @thesoundtestroom said:
    I just want to be clear about something everyone.
    There are now more moderators and another administrator.
    It wasn’t me that closed that particular thread.

    Doug, your post in the other thread made me laugh out loud and feel a little less stupid. Thanks.
    And thank you everybody for the kind replies!

  • @u0421793 said:

    @Artj said:

    @u0421793 said:
    Hyperreal – now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long while

    "Hyperreal – now that’s a name I've not heard in a long time" Correct it for you. :)

    Talking of Alec Guinness, I reviewed a film he was in — Kind Hearts and Coronets — a while back
    https://www.youtube.com/live/PJ-OoXeJvFI?si=SqFVkvgtBQpZOD-J

    That is a classic indeed. Love those old Ealing comedies. Haven't seen it for four decades.

  • @Dham said:

    @abf said:
    Hello AB folks,
    Especially @Dham
    I mentioned something in the medieval thread I shouldn't have mentioned, and now that thread got closed. I didn't mean to cause trouble, apologies, it was a fine thread, r.i.p.

    No worries. I'm sure there will be more specialized TE samplers in the future. Let's hope and pray a 70's Cop Show model is released soon..........

    Are we thinking more Mannix, or TJ Hooker?

  • edited August 2024

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Dham said:

    @abf said:
    Hello AB folks,
    Especially @Dham
    I mentioned something in the medieval thread I shouldn't have mentioned, and now that thread got closed. I didn't mean to cause trouble, apologies, it was a fine thread, r.i.p.

    No worries. I'm sure there will be more specialized TE samplers in the future. Let's hope and pray a 70's Cop Show model is released soon..........

    Are we thinking more Mannix, or TJ Hooker?

    ¿Por que no los dos? ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

    Seriously, an extremely badass idea. The first KO kinda has my attention... Just for a cheaper yet larger physical sampler (than the old minis)

    Medieval... Meh, not really my bag. Cool concept for those that want it tho (just happy to see more hardware options)

    But 70s cop? HELL YES!!

    With one concession...

    Can we please PLEASE throw the net a bit wider and include blacksploitation uber wah and mad crunchy vinyl funk?! Day one preorder, immediate upon release date announcement

  • Hello Kitty for me.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2024

    That's to capture the vast market of Dads that wouldn't ever spend the $$$ for a TE product for themselves but will be obliged to for their five year old daughters if they ever want to have any peace again.

  • I myself enjoy seeing others review TE products, but aside from the OP-1 Field that I unfortunately had to sell, I'm not all that interested in other TE products. The M8 v2 looks intriguing though. A pocket-sized tracker with some nice synth engines. Sign me up!

  • edited August 2024

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

    Sampling/ripping sounds from hardware grooveboxes and sharing them isn't really piracy to begin with, even if he'd had dropped a link it likely wouldn't be piracy. Groovebox and synth samples are part of music production culture!

    People who get those samples don't stop gassing after the originals, it's basically just an appetizer for the curious.

    I'm going to drop some links now to community sites with sounds sampled from grooveboxes to prove my point:

    https://legowelt.org/samples/

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

    The last one is around for almost 30 years.

    If it's that simple, why have Roland Corp. hunting other companies using theirs samples like Rebirth and so on?

    A newly released product or and old hardware product - it's a big difference, very big difference...

    People/companies like Goldbaby live from sampling drum machines. I think there's a difference if you sample the sounds from the machine, or if you extract the encoded data from the machine itself and plant it into a similar environment/fx stage, which would be illegal like distributing roms for video game emulators.

    TE samples run through an fx stage on the device afaik. If you could extract the raw sample data somehow it wouldn't sound anything like it. That's why I'm sure that it's just sampled from the groovebox which I believe is legal because it's an instrument.

    It's a bit like selling results from using a tool/"instrument" like Photoshop vs. reselling a cracked copy of Photoshop itself, or selling images from you playing Super Mario vs. the actual game as a rom.

    There seems to be a huge grey zone, there are sooo many commercial sample collections that are sampled from hardware.
    At least this video can be watched for free ;)

  • @rs2000 said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

    Sampling/ripping sounds from hardware grooveboxes and sharing them isn't really piracy to begin with, even if he'd had dropped a link it likely wouldn't be piracy. Groovebox and synth samples are part of music production culture!

    People who get those samples don't stop gassing after the originals, it's basically just an appetizer for the curious.

    I'm going to drop some links now to community sites with sounds sampled from grooveboxes to prove my point:

    https://legowelt.org/samples/

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

    The last one is around for almost 30 years.

    If it's that simple, why have Roland Corp. hunting other companies using theirs samples like Rebirth and so on?

    A newly released product or and old hardware product - it's a big difference, very big difference...

    People/companies like Goldbaby live from sampling drum machines. I think there's a difference if you sample the sounds from the machine, or if you extract the encoded data from the machine itself and plant it into a similar environment/fx stage, which would be illegal like distributing roms for video game emulators.

    TE samples run through an fx stage on the device afaik. If you could extract the raw sample data somehow it wouldn't sound anything like it. That's why I'm sure that it's just sampled from the groovebox which I believe is legal because it's an instrument.

    It's a bit like selling results from using a tool/"instrument" like Photoshop vs. reselling a cracked copy of Photoshop itself, or selling images from you playing Super Mario vs. the actual game as a rom.

    There seems to be a huge grey zone, there are sooo many commercial sample collections that are sampled from hardware.
    At least this video can be watched for free ;)

    Yes, I agree around greyzones, but, I still think’s that new hardware products should be more protected in comparison with five or fifteen years old hardware…

    Piracy is unfortunately pretty wide excepted - this made me remember the the ”scandal” Tim Bergling (Avicii) went thru.

    In an TV-interview Tim Bergling showing the TV-host how he working in the DAW Fruity Loops to remix music, but, this copy was a cracked version of FL (as seen in the lower right corner on the screen) - strange that a wealthy guy like mr Bergling should use pirate software?

    When then Avicii made suicide 2018 he’s left this world with 50 million dollar on his account, and, also two ”mansions”, one in Los Angeles and the other in Miami…

  • @HolyMoses said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @HolyMoses said:

    @kirmesteggno said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @kirmesteggno said:
    You did nothing wrong imo @abf

    There was a lot of drama for very little reason. That is all too common here these days. It was enough for one person to point out that it's not accepted to post piracy type links. ABF graciously and immediately acknowledged that, and that should have been the end of the story. Be gentle with each other, people, please.

    Sampling/ripping sounds from hardware grooveboxes and sharing them isn't really piracy to begin with, even if he'd had dropped a link it likely wouldn't be piracy. Groovebox and synth samples are part of music production culture!

    People who get those samples don't stop gassing after the originals, it's basically just an appetizer for the curious.

    I'm going to drop some links now to community sites with sounds sampled from grooveboxes to prove my point:

    https://legowelt.org/samples/

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

    The last one is around for almost 30 years.

    If it's that simple, why have Roland Corp. hunting other companies using theirs samples like Rebirth and so on?

    A newly released product or and old hardware product - it's a big difference, very big difference...

    People/companies like Goldbaby live from sampling drum machines. I think there's a difference if you sample the sounds from the machine, or if you extract the encoded data from the machine itself and plant it into a similar environment/fx stage, which would be illegal like distributing roms for video game emulators.

    TE samples run through an fx stage on the device afaik. If you could extract the raw sample data somehow it wouldn't sound anything like it. That's why I'm sure that it's just sampled from the groovebox which I believe is legal because it's an instrument.

    It's a bit like selling results from using a tool/"instrument" like Photoshop vs. reselling a cracked copy of Photoshop itself, or selling images from you playing Super Mario vs. the actual game as a rom.

    There seems to be a huge grey zone, there are sooo many commercial sample collections that are sampled from hardware.
    At least this video can be watched for free ;)

    Yes, I agree around greyzones, but, I still think’s that new hardware products should be more protected in comparison with five or fifteen years old hardware…

    Good point.

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