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Can you charge faster than the 20 w supplied?
Well, can you? I think my Mastercard charges faster.
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Depends on the model of your device! Even which iOS as well.
As well as the brick, I’m sure you know.
Even the wire I that’s used.
It’s a mess lol.
Wattage is the ability of the charger to provide power; what determines the charging rate of the device is the maximum amount of current it can draw while charging.
Short version - there’s a limit to how fast you can charge it and higher wattage chargers can’t take you beyond that.
@offbrands iPad Pro M2. Latest iOS. How much faster charging is possible?
@michael_m , this is what I have read.
Well if this article is accurate, Apple doesn’t have any official documentation about it.
Bigger brick like the ones that come with the MacBook or any of the several they list here will help, also a thunderbolt cable should get you fast charging I imagine
When I got a second usb c charger for my m1 macBook Air I chose a 60 watt model. It does charge faster...
Also my hub with pd charging has more juice for things that get power from usb.
@Alfred And there are no adverse issues with doing that?
I hope not!? It is mostly topping of. But when it is empty it does recharge faster.
I recall my macbook mentioning something about fast charging with this more powerfull adapter.
The max power is mentioned on the pd hub. I like the ugreen brand. Got a hub and the adapter from them. Much more mobile to not have to bring them over to the second location.
I have an iPad Pro 12.9” Apple Silicon (2022) - when I charge thru an powerful and expensive Powerbank (Anker) I can see the values on the Powerbanks display.
The Anker Powerbank has 65W PD and it put in around 50W in my iPad if the battery is empty up to around 50% charged iPad - then the PD is getting less powerful - as I remember, from 80% to 100% on the iPad the charging is around 20W…
So, to summarize this - all kind of batteries hasn’t got a static level of charging - it slows down when the battery reach 60-80%.
Look at todays electric vehicles, they can easily be fastcharged up to 80% in less than 30 minutes, but, if you wanna get 100% you probably must charged around 60-70 minutes on most newer EV-cars (2021 years models and newer)…
I think on some devices at least, you can change that behaviour on the device: https://support.apple.com/en-us/108055
Ah, can only adjust that on iPhone, I think
my advice is to just stick with the supplied official Apple charger or any another official charger that Apple recommends. i assume you spent a lot of money on your iPad so you don't want apple coming up with excuses if your iPad happens to malfunction as unlikely as that may be.
No, that's a bad advice!
The intelligent power port electronics in modern devices is heavily protected from all sorts of "bad" noname chargers and powerbanks - the most dramatic that can happens to the port is just physical damages...
So, my advice, buy a known brand charger och powerbank and your charging is top notch.
bit extreme to says it bad advice. just advice, you can leave it of course.
Thx @Danny_Mammy i think I’ll follow your advice. After all, at 76 I’m slow myself.
Heh, yah then to say "the most dramatic that can happens to the port is just physical damages..."...which sounds bad and worth avoiding to me.
If you have a Magic Keyboard for your iPad, plugging the charger into that port instead of the iPad’s allows faster charging too. I think I read on the newer iPads it’s up to 60W.
“You won’t believe what happened next!”
FWIW, when I got my M2 I was surprised that anything less than the 20w charger supplied just wouldn’t charge the iPad through the Apple multiport adapter at all. Things got clearer when I bought a third party hub (can’t remember the make, but it’s the one Jakob Haq recommends), which stated the hub itself need 10w, so presumably the Apple adapter has similar requirements. I wanted a second charger for use in my “studio”, so got an Anker 100w, which does seem to charge faster than the Apple one, though I haven’t timed it. As the iPad itself decides how much power to draw from the charger I think it’s safe. I think I found a thread on here saying that if you’re using a hub it’s best to get at least 65w, but the 100w showed up when I searched and it was priced reasonably so I got that.
If you have any other USB-C charger with a wattage higher than 20w, it's safe to try it out. USB-C cables, ports, and the iPad's battery management will communicate internally to handle the available power on their own. Any difference may be marginal, but it could be worth it if you're stuck waiting. When I got my M2 iPad I remember feeling the charging was very slow, also.
Thx @tom_ward after hearing opinions here I think I’ll just leave well enough alone especially not risking Apple’s warranty.. After all, I’m retired, why am I in a rush anyway.
I don’t think having a charger with a higher rating can hurt your iPad, but it might not be something that charges it faster. Think of it like pouring water into funnels with the same size tube at the bottom but with different sized wide receptacles at the top. A smaller one might take longer to fill your iPad, and an optimal sized one will fill it faster. However, there’s a point at which a much larger funnel will still have water in it when your iPad is full.
lol, @michael_m we need a pump and Bernoulli’s Theorem. That’ll speed it up!
Can't go wrong with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"!
Worth a try… 😂
The power supplies don’t push power onto the iPad. The iPad is drawing from the well of available power. So, if a power supply is rated as 65W then this is the maximum amount of power it can supply at any one time. Apple actually sell power adapters that have multiple USB plugs so that you can charge multiple devices at once. When there are 2 devices connected the charging kind of halves itself between the 2 devices, if only one device is connected then the maximum amount of power is available for the single device to draw upon. Apple devices have a built in process which slows down the rate of charge when you reach 80%. You really can’t go wrong using any of the Apple chargers to charge your device as long as you have the minimum amount required available.
20W is the minimum amount that would be necessary to charge an M2 iPad. If you connected a hub with extra devices connected this will slow down the rate of recharge even further.
The potential problems you might experience is when you plug extra devices like hubs that are reliant on the iPad charger and you have multiple devices plugged into that like drives and controllers etc that are drawing power. Also, if you plug into a charging port on a power board that might not have quite enough of a power rating to keep up with the power draw. In this situation you could potentially damage part of the power charging circuit. (I have experienced this with an iPad and it resulted in a compromised battery which I might eventually replace if I feel I need the iPad for anything substantial)
Putting it succinctly, the more devices you have plugged in relying on the power supply for power the higher the rating should be of your power supply to assist in covering the load. A power supply that is under rated is going to potentially cause more issues than a power supply that appears to be beyond your needs. If you use a higher rated power supply for your iPad the iPad will draw as much as it is capable of which will result in a higher charge rate for the initial blast up to 80% of capacity and then it slows down for the last 20%. If you use an Apple charger rated at a higher Wattage it is not going to blow your iPad up.
Mike has left out an important detail.
20W is the spec for the iPad but he also is using an Anker powered hub that has an essential audio headphone jack and several other USB, HDMI ports. The hub consumes some of the input current to function so I recommend a 40W (or higher) adapter to recharge faster and avoid damaging the Anker hub.
I think he runs the display to a Samsung screen and uses the headphone amp and might add a keyboard that consumes power from the USB.
The crucial spec in electronics is voltage. All these USB-C adapters provide the same voltage to protect the attached devices but extra power (wattage) means the single adapter can provide current on demand up to some number of devices. Too many devices past the power rating and you burn out the adapter.
The 20W adapter seems to be working with getting too hot but I would go up a notch and use a 40W adapter and also improve charging times while have an adapter that lasts longer without pulling too much current and risking a burn out.
A photo of the Anker connected to a Mac Book makes me think the Anker consumes up to 15Watts itself.
If that’s the case with a 20W adapter the iPad is only fed 5Watts as the target host for the hub.
I went with a 100W adapter for my Anker hub input because I also have a MacBook and need the expansion ports since the MacBook only provides a single USB-C port but it does have a headphone port… still guitar and keyboard inputs are needed on the Mac too.
I recently swapped out the Anker hub for a hub with an internal NVMe SSD slot and I picked up a 1TB SSD card. I did need to format the SSD on the Mac before the iPad recognised it using the diskutil app. The SSD is fast and having an extra 1TB is cool but too many iPad apps won’t use external storage but some do.
@Mountain_Hamlet .. A man who knows what he’s talking about. 👍😎
@McD, I always charge the iPad without the hub. I never felt it to see if it gets hot with the plug ins, however. Will do that.
If you never have the iPad shut down then it sounds like you have a process that works for you. I suspect your musical activities tend to happen around the same time each day so a process that recharges works for you.
I use a similar process for iPhone and watch charging by aligning charging with sleep.
I just went through another episode where pocket lint clogged my lightning port and I needed to use a push pin to scratch the hardened layer of lint out of the port. It ruins the day to awake and find the iPhone at 3%.
I must strongly rebate this. I fried 2 iPads due to one of those “snug fit” usb adapters. All while plugging in to charge. It was a good brand, too, I believe it was Anker. And it was 2 because I didn’t blame the adapter the first time around. Apple replaced them but never informed me or performed an autopsy.