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Bluetooth MIDI latency 2x iPads

I love loopy pro so much that I figured I’d use an old iPad I had laying around to expand my control surface for Loopy Pro. I hope to run loopy pro on both iPads (1 iPad will just be a control surface for the main iPad). I tried connecting the two iPads using the Bluetooth device feature within Loopy Pro, but I’m getting the typical Bluetooth latency. I assumed that I would get near zero latency like when I use a Widi master, but that’s not the case.

Am I doing something wrong here? Is a wired connection possible instead to send midi data between the two devices.

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  • wimwim
    edited September 4

    Bluetooth midi latency should be small. There must be something wrong. What I could not guess.

    You can connect two devices (only) together with a USB cable to run "Network Session" between them. https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=loopy_pro_direct_midi_between_two_ios_devices. Check to be sure that the connection isn't going over wifi rather than the cable.

    Another option, if you have two USB ethernet adapters is to connect them together with an ethernet cable or through a network switch.

  • @GreedySpark said:
    I love loopy pro so much that I figured I’d use an old iPad I had laying around to expand my control surface for Loopy Pro. I hope to run loopy pro on both iPads (1 iPad will just be a control surface for the main iPad). I tried connecting the two iPads using the Bluetooth device feature within Loopy Pro, but I’m getting the typical Bluetooth latency. I assumed that I would get near zero latency like when I use a Widi master, but that’s not the case.

    Am I doing something wrong here? Is a wired connection possible instead to send midi data between the two devices.

    What do you mean by “typical Bluetooth latency”?

    How much latency (5 ms, 20, 100?)

    What are you using the Bluetooth midi to do?

    How are you determining the latency?

  • After both of you wise gentlemen suggested that there shouldn’t be latency, I did some trouble shooting and learned that when went through the midi learn process, the iPad I’m using as a control surface was sending “hold” signals when I “press” a button in loopy pro. Setting the buttons to “press/release” seems to work, which I suppose would be the same as striking a key, so that makes sense.

    Thanks for driving me off of the wrong rabbit hole!

  • @GreedySpark said:
    After both of you wise gentlemen suggested that there shouldn’t be latency, I did some trouble shooting and learned that when went through the midi learn process, the iPad I’m using as a control surface was sending “hold” signals when I “press” a button in loopy pro. Setting the buttons to “press/release” seems to work, which I suppose would be the same as striking a key, so that makes sense.

    Thanks for driving me off of the wrong rabbit hole!

    With midi learn, if you only send an on with no off, that gets learned as hold. When that happens you can tap to on the midilearn panel to change hold to on.

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