Frostbite by AudioThing (Released on iOS)

ninobeatz

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/frostbite-spectral-freeze/id6698876374

Frostbite is a spectral freezing plugin with a Ring Modulator and a Feedback module. With the four freezing modes (spectral, reverb, convolution, granular), you can transform any sound into ambient textures, soundscapes, or just frozen reverbs.

Frostbite can also be used for extreme sonic experiments by entirely mangling any source with extreme modulations.

The Signal Flow is flexible, you can rearrange the modules with a simple drag-and-drop, and selects between the two modes: serial and parallel. With the internal LFO you can modulate most of the parameters on each module, creating evolving eerie soundscapes.

Frostbite 2 is available for macOS, Windows, and Linux (VST, VST3, AU, AAX, CLAP, 64-bit only), and also as AUv3 and Standalone on the App Store for iOS and iPadOS.

Gavinski

My 20 minute walkthrough

Pxlhg

Sounds good!

squeals

Loving this. Great video @Gavinski

craftycurate

This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

AudioGus

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Yah was just thinking a global mix would be nice.

Gavinski

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Same - this really puzzled me, just realized I forgot to mention it in my vid, it's definitely a strange omission.

@squeals thnx! Yeah, surprised not to see this app generating a bit more discussion here on the forum, it's one of the more interesting and at the same time very musical Audiothing apps, for my taste.

Pxlhg

+1 for a global dry/wet mix. There has been a lot of really awesome releases to add on to what we already have, maybe we're starting to see a bit of saturation of the iOS music app "hype" (was there ever one?).

Gavinski

@Pxlhg said:
+1 for a global dry/wet mix. There has been a lot of really awesome releases to add on to what we already have, maybe we're starting to see a bit of saturation of the iOS music app "hype" (was there ever one?).

Oh we definitely are seeing saturation and less hype, no doubt, and that has good and bad aspects, I guess. Certainly though, activity on this forum, engagement on YouTube, and likely app sales as well, are heavily down compared to some years ago.

Samu

@Gavinski said:
Certainly though, activity on this forum, engagement on YouTube, and likely app sales as well, are heavily down compared to some years ago.

My conclusion on this is that is that the pandemic days are over and most relatively active users likely have a fairly complete toolkit and for the most part the 'install-buy everything' days are over and even if all the forum members would buy every single app that gets released it'll not provide enough revenue to support all developers who push out apps...

dmnc

@Gavinski said:

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Same - this really puzzled me, just realized I forgot to mention it in my vid, it's definitely a strange omission.

@squeals thnx! Yeah, surprised not to see this app generating a bit more discussion here on the forum, it's one of the more interesting and at the same time very musical Audiothing apps, for my taste.

I like two separate controls for dry and wet in apps like Frostbite. This allows me to control the volume better even in longer effect chains. And you can mix in the wet signal like a separate channel without affecting the dry signal. This is also the case with FAC Alteza, for example.

Gavinski

@dmnc said:

@Gavinski said:

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Same - this really puzzled me, just realized I forgot to mention it in my vid, it's definitely a strange omission.

@squeals thnx! Yeah, surprised not to see this app generating a bit more discussion here on the forum, it's one of the more interesting and at the same time very musical Audiothing apps, for my taste.

I like two separate controls for dry and wet in apps like Frostbite. This allows me to control the volume better even in longer effect chains. And you can mix in the wet signal like a separate channel without affecting the dry signal. This is also the case with FAC Alteza, for example.

Yes, this mixing in the wet is what I did at the start of my vid. I still find it a bit fiddly on a touch screen as you need to use two fingers and be more careful with the way you tweak than with a dry wet knob. I guess you're right though that there are also advantages to the two separate knobs.

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Certainly though, activity on this forum, engagement on YouTube, and likely app sales as well, are heavily down compared to some years ago.

My conclusion on this is that is that the pandemic days are over and most relatively active users likely have a fairly complete toolkit and for the most part the 'install-buy everything' days are over and even if all the forum members would buy every single app that gets released it'll not provide enough revenue to support all developers who push out apps...

Yes. it's not just about the pandemic, though that's a major factor. Certainly in the early years you had hype around the novelty of touch screens. That's gone now. Then from the mid 2010s you had the arrival of AUv3. So that gave a boost for a few years where people would happily buy AUv3 stuff to replace previously used USA apps. Then stuff like Apple dropping the affiliate program, which killed much of the incentive for people to market this stuff.

But sure, it's normal and good for the urge to instabuy everything to wear off.

squeals

The more I play around with this, the more I love it. It’s useful for whatever genre I’m doing and in lots of different ways. It’s a real all rounder for me, especially as I’m trying to work on transitions and background sounds at the moment. I don’t know if I’m saying it right, but it really ‘sits in’ or blends when run on a parallel channel.

On the other topic. I have tried to cut it back a bit on app spending. Kids birthday, car MOT, anniversary, Christmas coming up, still need to replace my now extremely broken ath-m50x 😭 so I’m budgeting and watching more vids before choosing. Glad I choose this one.

thesoundtestroom

I set up this project in Loopy Pro, 6 instances of Frostbite 2 and eight audio loops.
The CPU was really good, even when all effects were on and all loops are playing it doesn’t go beyond 40%, which is great because my iPad doesn’t even have an M chip.

bygjohn

@squeals said:
The more I play around with this, the more I love it. It’s useful for whatever genre I’m doing and in lots of different ways. It’s a real all rounder for me, especially as I’m trying to work on transitions and background sounds at the moment. I don’t know if I’m saying it right, but it really ‘sits in’ or blends when run on a parallel channel.

I’ve been having a lot of fun with this anyway, but thank you for planting the seed re transitions - I can feel my neurons gearing up already!

oldsynthguy

@thesoundtestroom said:
I set up this project in Loopy Pro, 6 instances of Frostbite 2 and eight audio loops.
The CPU was really good, even when all effects were on and all loops are playing it doesn’t go beyond 40%, which is great because my iPad doesn’t even have an M chip.

Still getting “Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot” messages when trying to watch videos on here, despite being signed in to my YouTube account. Don’t know if this is a forum or YouTube setting, but it’s really annoying. Can’t watch videos at all now on here.

Jumpercollins

@oldsynthguy said:

@thesoundtestroom said:
I set up this project in Loopy Pro, 6 instances of Frostbite 2 and eight audio loops.
The CPU was really good, even when all effects were on and all loops are playing it doesn’t go beyond 40%, which is great because my iPad doesn’t even have an M chip.

Still getting “Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot” messages when trying to watch videos on here, despite being signed in to my YouTube account. Don’t know if this is a forum or YouTube setting, but it’s really annoying. Can’t watch videos at all now on here.

If you tap U Tube at the bottom of the window and have the app installed it takes it to the native source.

Gavinski

@oldsynthguy said:

@thesoundtestroom said:
I set up this project in Loopy Pro, 6 instances of Frostbite 2 and eight audio loops.
The CPU was really good, even when all effects were on and all loops are playing it doesn’t go beyond 40%, which is great because my iPad doesn’t even have an M chip.

Still getting “Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot” messages when trying to watch videos on here, despite being signed in to my YouTube account. Don’t know if this is a forum or YouTube setting, but it’s really annoying. Can’t watch videos at all now on here.

Strange some have this problem and some don't. I don't. Do u still see the thumbnail and the word YouTube on the bottom right? If so, (you probably know this, but just in case you don't) pressing 'YouTube' will open the vid in YouTube anyway, and it won't really matter whether it can be viewed directly in the forum.

Krupa

@Gavinski said:

@dmnc said:

@Gavinski said:

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Same - this really puzzled me, just realized I forgot to mention it in my vid, it's definitely a strange omission.

@squeals thnx! Yeah, surprised not to see this app generating a bit more discussion here on the forum, it's one of the more interesting and at the same time very musical Audiothing apps, for my taste.

I like two separate controls for dry and wet in apps like Frostbite. This allows me to control the volume better even in longer effect chains. And you can mix in the wet signal like a separate channel without affecting the dry signal. This is also the case with FAC Alteza, for example.

Yes, this mixing in the wet is what I did at the start of my vid. I still find it a bit fiddly on a touch screen as you need to use two fingers and be more careful with the way you tweak than with a dry wet knob. I guess you're right though that there are also advantages to the two separate knobs.

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Certainly though, activity on this forum, engagement on YouTube, and likely app sales as well, are heavily down compared to some years ago.

My conclusion on this is that is that the pandemic days are over and most relatively active users likely have a fairly complete toolkit and for the most part the 'install-buy everything' days are over and even if all the forum members would buy every single app that gets released it'll not provide enough revenue to support all developers who push out apps...

Yes. it's not just about the pandemic, though that's a major factor. Certainly in the early years you had hype around the novelty of touch screens. That's gone now. Then from the mid 2010s you had the arrival of AUv3. So that gave a boost for a few years where people would happily buy AUv3 stuff to replace previously used USA apps. Then stuff like Apple dropping the affiliate program, which killed much of the incentive for people to market this stuff.

But sure, it's normal and good for the urge to instabuy everything to wear off.

I’m less troubled but the old instabuy impulse insanity these days than by platform parity paralysis what with all the old plugins I have on either desktop or mobile suddenly appearing on the other😅

Gavinski

@Krupa said:

@Gavinski said:

@dmnc said:

@Gavinski said:

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Same - this really puzzled me, just realized I forgot to mention it in my vid, it's definitely a strange omission.

@squeals thnx! Yeah, surprised not to see this app generating a bit more discussion here on the forum, it's one of the more interesting and at the same time very musical Audiothing apps, for my taste.

I like two separate controls for dry and wet in apps like Frostbite. This allows me to control the volume better even in longer effect chains. And you can mix in the wet signal like a separate channel without affecting the dry signal. This is also the case with FAC Alteza, for example.

Yes, this mixing in the wet is what I did at the start of my vid. I still find it a bit fiddly on a touch screen as you need to use two fingers and be more careful with the way you tweak than with a dry wet knob. I guess you're right though that there are also advantages to the two separate knobs.

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Certainly though, activity on this forum, engagement on YouTube, and likely app sales as well, are heavily down compared to some years ago.

My conclusion on this is that is that the pandemic days are over and most relatively active users likely have a fairly complete toolkit and for the most part the 'install-buy everything' days are over and even if all the forum members would buy every single app that gets released it'll not provide enough revenue to support all developers who push out apps...

Yes. it's not just about the pandemic, though that's a major factor. Certainly in the early years you had hype around the novelty of touch screens. That's gone now. Then from the mid 2010s you had the arrival of AUv3. So that gave a boost for a few years where people would happily buy AUv3 stuff to replace previously used USA apps. Then stuff like Apple dropping the affiliate program, which killed much of the incentive for people to market this stuff.

But sure, it's normal and good for the urge to instabuy everything to wear off.

I’m less troubled but the old instabuy impulse insanity these days than by platform parity paralysis what with all the old plugins I have on either desktop or mobile suddenly appearing on the other😅

Ah haha, sounds dangerous. I'd personally probably avoid buying twice as much as possible unless money wasn't even the slightest issue

Krupa

@Gavinski said:

@Krupa said:

@Gavinski said:

@dmnc said:

@Gavinski said:

@craftycurate said:
This sounds really good ... my only niggle is that I wish it had a single Wet/Dry Control. With separate Wet/Dry controls it's a bit more fiddly to set it up for live use as an Insert effect using the AUM rotary control thing in my setup anyways. It's a small thing though, and a bargain at the intro price.

Same - this really puzzled me, just realized I forgot to mention it in my vid, it's definitely a strange omission.

@squeals thnx! Yeah, surprised not to see this app generating a bit more discussion here on the forum, it's one of the more interesting and at the same time very musical Audiothing apps, for my taste.

I like two separate controls for dry and wet in apps like Frostbite. This allows me to control the volume better even in longer effect chains. And you can mix in the wet signal like a separate channel without affecting the dry signal. This is also the case with FAC Alteza, for example.

Yes, this mixing in the wet is what I did at the start of my vid. I still find it a bit fiddly on a touch screen as you need to use two fingers and be more careful with the way you tweak than with a dry wet knob. I guess you're right though that there are also advantages to the two separate knobs.

@Samu said:

@Gavinski said:
Certainly though, activity on this forum, engagement on YouTube, and likely app sales as well, are heavily down compared to some years ago.

My conclusion on this is that is that the pandemic days are over and most relatively active users likely have a fairly complete toolkit and for the most part the 'install-buy everything' days are over and even if all the forum members would buy every single app that gets released it'll not provide enough revenue to support all developers who push out apps...

Yes. it's not just about the pandemic, though that's a major factor. Certainly in the early years you had hype around the novelty of touch screens. That's gone now. Then from the mid 2010s you had the arrival of AUv3. So that gave a boost for a few years where people would happily buy AUv3 stuff to replace previously used USA apps. Then stuff like Apple dropping the affiliate program, which killed much of the incentive for people to market this stuff.

But sure, it's normal and good for the urge to instabuy everything to wear off.

I’m less troubled but the old instabuy impulse insanity these days than by platform parity paralysis what with all the old plugins I have on either desktop or mobile suddenly appearing on the other😅

Ah haha, sounds dangerous. I'd personally probably avoid buying twice as much as possible unless money wasn't even the slightest issue

Yeah it’s just annoying when you’re at a jam and realise you haven’t got that particular thing at your disposal, or vice versa in the studio and can’t be bothered routing through the iPad, but definitely first world problems😄

Prog1967

@oldsynthguy said:

@thesoundtestroom said:
I set up this project in Loopy Pro, 6 instances of Frostbite 2 and eight audio loops.
The CPU was really good, even when all effects were on and all loops are playing it doesn’t go beyond 40%, which is great because my iPad doesn’t even have an M chip.

Still getting “Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot” messages when trying to watch videos on here, despite being signed in to my YouTube account. Don’t know if this is a forum or YouTube setting, but it’s really annoying. Can’t watch videos at all now on here.

It happened to me since I use a VPN. I changed zones and voila. No problems at all

oldsynthguy

@Jumpercollins said:
If you tap U Tube at the bottom of the window and have the app installed it takes it to the native source.

@Gavinski said:
pressing 'YouTube' will open the vid in YouTube anyway, and it won't really matter whether it can be viewed directly in the forum.

Yeah, I know I can click the link and view in another window/tab, but I prefer viewing videos on the website they’re supposed to be embedded in.

I’m wondering if the people posting vids have got embedding switched off, since some videos work ok? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171780#zippy=%2Cturn-off-embedding-for-your-videos

offbrands

@oldsynthguy said:

@Jumpercollins said:
If you tap U Tube at the bottom of the window and have the app installed it takes it to the native source.

@Gavinski said:
pressing 'YouTube' will open the vid in YouTube anyway, and it won't really matter whether it can be viewed directly in the forum.

Yeah, I know I can click the link and view in another window/tab, but I prefer viewing videos on the website they’re supposed to be embedded in.

I’m wondering if the people posting vids have got embedding switched off, since some videos work ok? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171780#zippy=%2Cturn-off-embedding-for-your-videos

It has something to do with the site switch I think. At least that’s when I noticed it.

I mentioned this in another post
(Quote) I had this happen a couple times, typically a reload of the page, clearing cookies, or closing the browser (any one of these options) fixed it for me

It being the YouTube sign in issues. Try it b Hope this works!

Slush

@oldsynthguy said:

@thesoundtestroom said:
I set up this project in Loopy Pro, 6 instances of Frostbite 2 and eight audio loops.
The CPU was really good, even when all effects were on and all loops are playing it doesn’t go beyond 40%, which is great because my iPad doesn’t even have an M chip.

Still getting “Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot” messages when trying to watch videos on here, despite being signed in to my YouTube account. Don’t know if this is a forum or YouTube setting, but it’s really annoying. Can’t watch videos at all now on here.

Turn off your VPN.

oldsynthguy

@Slush said:
Turn off your VPN.

I don’t use one, but…

@offbrands said:
It has something to do with the site switch I think. At least that’s when I noticed it.

I mentioned this in another post
(Quote) I had this happen a couple times, typically a reload of the page, clearing cookies, or closing the browser (any one of these options) fixed it for me

It being the YouTube sign in issues. Try it b Hope this works!

Ah, I think you’ve cracked it - cleared YouTube and Loopy forum cookies and that seems to have worked so far. It was weird, as some vids were loading (Gavs), but others (Doug’s) weren’t.

Cheers - I’ll watch the Frostbite vids now!

offbrands

@oldsynthguy said:

@Slush said:
Turn off your VPN.

I don’t use one, but…

@offbrands said:
It has something to do with the site switch I think. At least that’s when I noticed it.

I mentioned this in another post
(Quote) I had this happen a couple times, typically a reload of the page, clearing cookies, or closing the browser (any one of these options) fixed it for me

It being the YouTube sign in issues. Try it b Hope this works!

Ah, I think you’ve cracked it - cleared YouTube and Loopy forum cookies and that seems to have worked so far. It was weird, as some vids were loading (Gavs), but others (Doug’s) weren’t.

Cheers - I’ll watch the Frostbite vids now!

Cheers! Clearing cookies from the browser is the usual solve for me I should have stated. Damn I hate talking about cookies cause now I want real actual cookies 🙄🤣