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The Final Two Tracks from my "The Purple iPad Album" in Gadget 3, Now onto LP4i

Disclaimer: I'm high atm, so if I ramble on, you've been warned lol.

Phew, and that's settles that. 6 tracks done in Gadget 3, and I'm spent. 😂 No full album. I mean, Gadget is great, but I can admit that the mixdown quality isn't my best work. For instance, I can't group my tracks into various busses, folders, stacks, etc, like I can in NS2 and now in Logic Pro. But, please do enjoy my efforts anyways. Cheers. 🍻


So, I want to return to making higher-quality tracks rather than rubbish-sounding tracks. I'm also FINALLY clicking with Logic Pro! Honestly I think the biggest caveat for Logic Pro on iPad was the lack of a proper sample browser. Fiddling with Sample Crate in "slide over" mode and even in "split screen" mode was a right proper pain in the arse given I have thousands of drum oneshots from Black Octopus' "Leviathan" anthology to all volumes of "Sounds of KSHMR" packs.

I'm in the middle of producing my first track since May 2023 in Logic Pro, and it's a bit of a slow start. That's not due to Logic Pro's slide-over UI nor anything wrong with Logic Pro. Rather, I'm establishing my personal workflow within Logic Pro and getting used to stuff. And bloody hell I've discovered some pretty baller stuff! :mrgreen: (Well, it may not be a surprise to those who are well-versed with Logic Pro for iPad, lol.)

Biggest feature for me personally is the really flexible automation! Not just track automation but also "per clip" automation! NS2 also has this, but it can't properly automate effect AUv3s, can it? Also, NS2 has no automation curves. Logic Pro has automation curves, which I've sorely missed since my old FL Studio days on Windows.

Another big feature for me personally is that new Quantec Room Simulator. Bloody hell I've not been this excited about a reverb since I purchased FAC Alteza. :lol: It sounds incredible and lush and professional, unlike the shite reverbs in Gadget and the "just okay" reverb in NS2. 😆

Oh and of course being able to reorder tracks and plugins is also very crucial to my personal workflow, and I'm glad Apple added that feature. And of course the AI Mastering Assistant comes quite in handy when needing to churn out a quick demo to a client. My regular client Malleous' jaw dropped when he heard my first track from in Logic Pro. For whatever reason, everything sounds crystal clear in Logic Pro even before I mix things down and apply Mastering Assistant.

Another thing I love about Logic Pro is that there are many big-name music producers whom I greatly admire using it on Mac, such as Martin Garrix, the late and great Avicii, David Guetta, Hardwell, Armin Van Buuren, and my idol Paul Van Dyk! (Just to name a few.)

Also, I'm returning part-time to creating music ideas on my iPhone. It's simple. I use a piano sound to lay down some chords and a melody in Garageband. Maybe add a simple kick drum/drums to get the feel just right. Then I can import into Logic Pro on iPad and flesh everything out, replace the drums, etc.

NOW that said, I haven't figured everything out in Logic yet, and I'm sure there are more surprises for me in store. For instance, on that aforementioned first track I'm producing in Logic, I used various instances of the quick sampler for my drum oneshots and grouped them in a substack as I'm not sure if there's anything like NS2's Slate in Logic Pro. Of course I loaded Doctor Vibe on that. :lol: The "quick sampler substack" workflow is definitely not the worst workflow, and I can manipulate the samples with a nice AHDSR envelope. (Some of the EDM kickdrum samples are too long, which could muddy the mix when the sub bass comes in, so shortening the samples with an envelope as part of "bass management" is utterly crucial to a proper mixdown, at least for me personally!)

All that said, I'm spent, lol.

Comments

  • Usually I hate those Chippie tunes but that first one was a lot of fun, very catchy. I even played it twice which is a first for me.

  • @deadpoetlive said:
    Usually I hate those Chippie tunes but that first one was a lot of fun, very catchy. I even played it twice which is a first for me.

    That's amazing! I'm glad you dug it. My idea was to blend Chiptune with a 2-5-1 Jazz chord progression and a playful Classical styled melody. 😅

    I'm really enjoying Logic Pro for iPad now. Well, starting ideas in Garageband (piano and drums) and finishing them up in Logic Pro.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Usually I hate those Chippie tunes but that first one was a lot of fun, very catchy. I even played it twice which is a first for me.

    That's amazing! I'm glad you dug it. My idea was to blend Chiptune with a 2-5-1 Jazz chord progression and a playful Classical styled melody. 😅

    I'm really enjoying Logic Pro for iPad now. Well, starting ideas in Garageband (piano and drums) and finishing them up in Logic Pro.

    Well it worked. Good you are enjoying logic, Gadget seems easier but when I've used it it sounds to me for want of a better word 'cheap'. I think you've inspired me to actually start using logic...I paid for a year in January to save money and haven't really left AUM since, so not the best investment I've made... :-) So this can be my (pre) New Years resolution...make at least one track in logic before my subscription runs out. Cheers, Andy.

  • @deadpoetlive said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @deadpoetlive said:
    Usually I hate those Chippie tunes but that first one was a lot of fun, very catchy. I even played it twice which is a first for me.

    That's amazing! I'm glad you dug it. My idea was to blend Chiptune with a 2-5-1 Jazz chord progression and a playful Classical styled melody. 😅

    I'm really enjoying Logic Pro for iPad now. Well, starting ideas in Garageband (piano and drums) and finishing them up in Logic Pro.

    Well it worked. Good you are enjoying logic, Gadget seems easier but when I've used it it sounds to me for want of a better word 'cheap'.

    Yeah, exactly. The last six uploads to SoundCloud were from Gadget, and while they were fun tracks, it indeed does sound "cheap", even with my mixing skills applied. Can't buss shit in Gadget nor slap on Doctor Vibe on the busses nor IFX for that matter (i.e. my "secret sauce" for everything in a mix). And while I tried to recreate the default compression parameters in the IFX compressor in Gadget, it just doesn't give my sounds that "oomph" needed like Doctor Vibe can. (That said, I used Doctor Vibe in the mastering chain of each track, lol.)

    I think you've inspired me to actually start using logic...I paid for a year in January to save money and haven't really left AUM since, so not the best investment I've made... :-) So this can be my (pre) New Years resolution...make at least one track in logic before my subscription runs out. Cheers, Andy.

    I'm glad I could inspire you while "stoned posting", lol. I was higher than Mt. Everest when writing the original post. 🤪 😂 That's because I finished my first track in Logic Pro after not using it to create tracks since May 2023 upon its initial release and had an edible to celebrate. And I don't know what it is, but Logic Pro's output sounds so clean, polished, professional and "expensive". Maybe it's that bloody Quantec plugin that was just added.

    Anyways, once I managed to chuck out a track from Logic Pro, I'm like "This sounds so much better than what I produced in Gadget." The Gadget tracks sound decent enough, but a bit lackluster for my personal standards. Ymmv.

    That said, I'm still "learning the ropes" of using Logic Pro tbqh. For instance, I don't know a lot about how to put together a drum rack, drum kit, (whatever it's called lol), at least not as of yet. (I grouped Quick Sampler tracks into one sub stack so I could apply Doctor Vibe on those, lol.) But, Logic Pro is chock full of tutorials one can follow in-app, so for sure I'll make use of those. I have a free day tomorrow, so I'll be diving headfirst into the tutorials on topics I'm unfamiliar with and get stuck into the second track.

    There is only one thing missing from Logic Pro on iPad for me - Flex Pitch. So while vocal recording is easier in Logic Pro, I still need to outsource to Cubasis 3 for vocal tuning and processing purposes. But that's really only a minor nitpick to be honest. Also, Logic Pro is almost like NS2 but on steroids. Wish it had NS2's note editing, but it's not difficult to get used to Logic's piano roll, at least for me personally.

    Not a lot of people are fans of subscriptions, myself included, but the way I see it is even just using Logic Pro's AI Mastering feature alone is worth a fiver per month or fifty quid annually. (Many AI mastering solutions like to charge five quid per track, and that shit doesn't fly with me. I don't have that kind of money.) But a whole professional DAW for a fiver monthly? I can make an exception for that despite my dislike of production software subs.

    And, I don't have to worry about Logic Pro ever kicking the bucket given Apple is keeping it maintained rather well. That's a big reason why I'm gravitating back towards Logic Pro. That, and I can use my iPhone again for starting ideas in Garageband (usually a piano with simple drums laid underneath) and fleshing them out on iPad.

  • https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/25wpwqp89sro6rsconepe/JWM-A-Sneaky-Ouverture-converted.m4a?rlkey=fcbc9s4r3tamcicfm7q3yqarc&st=af4am8ci&dl=0

    Alrighty, the second track I created in Logic Pro this year. I decided to share this one since it's more of a throwaway track that'll serve as an intro to the EP/Album I'm producing in Logic Pro. <3

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/25wpwqp89sro6rsconepe/JWM-A-Sneaky-Ouverture-converted.m4a?rlkey=fcbc9s4r3tamcicfm7q3yqarc&st=af4am8ci&dl=0

    Alrighty, the second track I created in Logic Pro this year. I decided to share this one since it's more of a throwaway track that'll serve as an intro to the EP/Album I'm producing in Logic Pro. <3

    That sounds kind of familiar, like from a film soundtrack or a piece of classical music, it definitely feels fuller than gadget.

  • @deadpoetlive said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/25wpwqp89sro6rsconepe/JWM-A-Sneaky-Ouverture-converted.m4a?rlkey=fcbc9s4r3tamcicfm7q3yqarc&st=af4am8ci&dl=0

    Alrighty, the second track I created in Logic Pro this year. I decided to share this one since it's more of a throwaway track that'll serve as an intro to the EP/Album I'm producing in Logic Pro. <3

    That sounds kind of familiar, like from a film soundtrack or a piece of classical music, it definitely feels fuller than gadget.

    My idea was to create something "spooky, mischievous but cute", but it ended up sounding like one of those royalty free Kevin MacLeod tracks you hear on Youtube videos, lol. 😂 But yes, the mix is far fuller than Gadget.

    And believe it or not, I used Module Pro for the strings (couldn't figure out how to get Studio Strings to go pizzi, but ah well) and the mellotron choir. Of course Quantec made its appearance on both tracks. Bloody brilliant reverb, that.

    The bass was Poison-202. Nice and meaty low end (yes, that's what she said lol). The ambient drums were a combination of some drums from the "Sounds of KSHMR Vol 4" pack and this one interesting Apple Loop I plopped into an audio track. All in all, a good experiment for me as I've never created a straight up orchestral track like that before. (I usually add orchestral elements to my EDM and Trance tracks.)

  • Anyways, I just created an idea in Garageband over a proper cuppa. It's just a piano track, bass groove, and rudimentary drums. The plan is to replace these sounds with other sounds once imported into Logic Pro later on. See, here's how it breaks down.

    The rudimentary drums help keep time. These will be replaced with harder-hitting drums in Logic (either from Black Octopus, Sounds of KSHMR, or a combination therein). The bass groove is to get a type of flow going, no matter what genre I produce in. Anyways, the synth bass preset I used sounds so perfect that I will keep it in the final version of the track as the mid bass, and double up the notes with a deep subbass (probably using Lowtone for the sub).

    The piano contains a sustained bass note, chords, and melody. This MIDI will be broken into three sections - melody will be some sort of plucked instrument(s), the chords will be applied to pads or choir or strings or a combination therein (depending on how I wish to layer), and the sustained bass will appear when the drums drop out during a build up.

    If this helps anyone to understand and get into Garageband (if not Logic Pro also), then that's job done. :) If not, that's fine too. Everyone has different tastes in music production software afterall.

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