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My best recommendation for you is to look into, based on my experiences:
Hope these options help. Here’s hoping others contribute more ideas.
Thanks for your recommendations. Will leave it a little longer to see if anyone fancies a collaboration. If I have to, I will learn, but hoping to concentrate my time on the music making, but if needs must….
Maybe I will find a student site where they do video editing and need music to do arty vids to? I did video and photography at college many moons ago - back then we had full sized VHS camcorders and very expensive hardware video editors - not a patch on todays gear lol
Here’s me playing the alter ego villain role.
Video editing takes a ton more time to do than music. There’s a reason AI videos are harder to do than music.
You need to offer something of value that videographers would want to make a video surrounding the sounds you make.
But the other side is this…it’ll be their vision of your song. Not what you’d imagine of your song.
That’s what got me into shooting videos on my phone. I started with my casual trail walks, then I put them in tools like iMovie and it did a decent job.
Sending this video to inspire you. Take a walk, shoot some colors of the fall.
Song title is ironically, “Colors of the Fall”. I took lengthy walks during the pandemic and made clips of it.
I remember drawing video boards by hand for every project. Had to be so organised as the batteries for the VHS camcorder would last about 5 minutes maximum lol. Imagine doing nice long walks with a full sized VHS camcorder and seperate battery pack lol.
Yeah, I probably will try at some point, when time allows!
Wow, that must have been really tough on the hilly climbs. I probably wasn’t even born then.
Nowadays, I bring out my trusty Google Pixel 5, and my iPhone and shoot different angles at the same time.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CmNtB_sgs5W/?igsh=MTE3bnl0MGpzZmQ2dA==
Okay, I promise I’m not trying to make it into a video type thread. What I liked about this video was that I held both phones in my hand and shot them as such.
Now we have apps like Instagram and DoubleTake that do this natively.
I think @MadeofWax could be open to this, depending.
Will watch tomorrow as late here now.
Thanks for the suggestion
Of course mate. Hope it works out.
Sincerely hoping you're not going the AI generative way, especially if you used to study photography at some point. Preserve the living ! Good luck with your search!
I will have to respectfully disagree. Not everyone can afford to hire a videographer, video editor, etc. If you can personally afford one, more power to you. But remember, we're musicians first and foremost. I may be a professional, but what about hobbyists who just want a nice video to accompany their music?
Also, not all of us have time to wait on the others to finish their work. I tend to work well with others, but occasionally someone can delay a project if they don't hold up their end of the deal, making it impossible to set a release date sometimes. Most professionals are punctual and work well under pressure. Some don't. It's a crapshoot.
In short, there are many advantages for a musician who isn't a videographer to use AI. Then again, I'd say using generic stock footage can also be advantageous.
I can understand both points of view. This is all just a hobby to me, but I do have time and learning constraints. I’m currently learning Logic and some music theory, adding on video editing too may be a bit too much for my pain addled brain at this time lol. Also my 256gb iPad is getting a bit full just making music.
It was worth a try finding another hobbyist though. Will try looking on some other sites.
The idea is that you want someone to make a video with one of these songs? Just whatever inspires them from listening to it I assumed is what you were putting out here? If I’m understanding the idea I got something I can pull together tomorrow after some errands.
@Fruitbat1919
Yes, completely open to any style or whatever you would want to do. Can be completely at your own discretion- as long as it’s not offensive or overly politically biased. Just wanting something to put with my YouTube music vids beyond images of what I’ve done in Logic - which is immensely boring for most people lol.
If you would like to have a go, let me know which audio file you want and I will figure out how I need to send you it.
Just to add, it would be considered a collaboration, you can post the finished result too and I would include any details you wanted when I post it on my YouTube
Just to add further details in case anyone fancies doing this:
It’s just for fun. My music has little to no commercial value, so the money is not going to be an issue here…I would bet money on it! lol.
It’s a collaboration, so you can post the end result on sites too as long as we both post with details of the other collaborator (sounds funny lol) as required.
I live in the UK and we get arrested here for the simplest of things, so nothing political or could be considered legally dodgy.
Beyond the common sense of 3, go for it! Be as creative as you want. You see a chocolate wrapper blowing in the wind while listening to my tracks, then have at it…just try and make it of some interest to a viewer or two (the amount of viewers I get lol
There will be no time constraints. As I say, it’s just a bit of fun, so I won’t be on your back about it - take as long as you need or want!
If you have an idea that requires a longer or shorter mix, I may be able to produce other mixes possibly, depending on time and if the track is not too difficult to chop up.
I don’t have a lot of experience of sharing files across the internet, so some guidance may be needed lol I am not the most computer savvy person in the world!
@Fruitbat1919
Best ways to share files
Thanks. Will get my old Google and One drives going again, as 25mb is laughable for these types of files.
Didn't say @Fruitbat1919 shouldn't use generative AI, I just said I hope he wouldn't 😁
Team Logic Pro. 💪 Lol, I'm also in the midst of learning Logic Pro as well. I know just enough to create tracks with, but I don't know all the ins and outs. (Thank goodness for those built-in tutorials!)
Ouch, I feel that pain lol. Hence why I produced on an iPhone for little over a year before the 512gb Mini 7 was released. 😅 (Well, regardless of screen size, 512gb is personally the lowest I can go storage-wise. I just prefer the Mini form factor.)
Best of luck to you mate. Well, if nothing else, there's always Fiverr.
I think I owe you an apology first. I'm sorry for coming off as terse. Definitely not my intention. 🙏
Secondly, yeah technically in a perfect world (or in my opinion of one at any rate), none of us would use AI. But such is not reality. 🫠 I often use WonderAI to generate album covers, even though I'm pretty ripper with making digital art. But at the rate I release music, having to make cover art on my own for each release would prove daunting and lead to burnout pretty quickly, at least for me. 😅
@Fruitbat1919 @jwmmakerofmusic
Yeah, Team Logic Pro 🤘
Well, I mainly use it on my Mac Mini but I remote it into my iPad or Windows PC.
Also, I use 256GB iPad 9th Gen. I honestly feel like it's the best iPad form factor.
Actually...hmm🤔
Maybe I should just get another one. I love the headphone jack so much.
what I did was to get the $3.99 iCloud option with 200 GB, then the yearly Google subscription with 200GB for $30. I'll downgrade it to 99c/50GB once I back up my phone to my Mac external storage.
Microsoft subscription is the only one that makes sense for me. $8/month for 2TB with access to Office 365 apps.
I figured that’s what you were saying! Yeah i’m stoked. I’m in the US MST so it’s 8:30 AM here for reference.
I think I got an idea for #2 if you’re okay with me using that audio, I did already rip it from YouTube with an Apple shortcut I made but higher quality is always appreciated since YouTube compresses the shit out of everything and their compressor algo is trash (In my opinion)
Lol. I’m a process person. I just like creating. So I’m super down!
Agreed, that’s totally fair.
I hear you on nothing political
(Frankly can’t be bothered with politics all things considered what’s happening here in the states)
That’s 2 more than I would get considering I post n o t h i n g (working on it with this collab -and in therapy in general, sharing is hard!)
I’m ADHD so thank you for this haha. I would stress out about it all day otherwise. Deadlines do help so I’ll give myself until Friday if that’s cool.
If you have any extended musical ideas for #2, I’d love to hear it. But I can work within the 6ish minutes it is.
Google drive is totally fine if that’s what’s best for you. iCloud has a really shitty implementation of sharing files but it’s fine enough lol.
WeTransfer lets you send up to 2GB files a month for free I believe and that’s always been rock solid for me. They have a nice app too.
I’ll DM you my email! Thank you for the opportunity.
Cheers. 🙏🏽
Just to add - I won’t be using any generative AI, nor any AI in general for prompts or that would manipulate the end product in anyway shape or form.
I can’t guarantee my video editing app (Lumafusion) doesn’t use some machine learning code or any other kind of form / algorithm for their code base as AI/machine learning is/has been everywhere in software but as you mentioned generative, I wanted to clarify.
My videos/art won’t use generative AI - scouts honor.
I’ve always been a creative. I’ve made short films since I was a kid, I’ve always been a graphic designer in some shape or form. Only got into creating my own music since late 2021 but as a creative, my stance on AI is that generative isn’t for me and the process of creating is what I enjoy most about it.
But this thread reminded me of this scene from The Departed lol
I don’t know if John Lennon actually said that but that’s how I view creativity. I ain’t no fucking John Lennon but I’ll get something out of anything, I don’t need nor want the generative AI.
Not my place to pass judgement on others usage of it, just wish people would fall in love with the creative process rather than view their end result as justification for the means.
Evidently in this Rolling Stone interview in 1971 he DID say this. Iconic. At the bottom of this pic I highlighted it.
EDIT: Added Rolling Stones original (login/paywalled) source and found the Web Archive Source for anyone who wants to read this interview. It’s LONG. I do recall reading this a long time ago.