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IOS DAWs and Sequencer with MPE integration.
Was wondering which iOS/ iPad OS DAWS and Sequencers have MPE recording? Is it possible to record or recreate glide and pressure etc within them with an app like Soundbox or get Soundbox to react to MPE recorded midi data ?
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Does Soundbox actually use pressure tho? I think it just does mpe pitch bend and nothing else. I hope I'm wrong about that.
@Gavinski Ok forget Soundbox what about Stringlab how would I record MPE from that into a DAW that supports it so when I play the recording back I can hear the movement and secondly can I edit that movement within the DAW ?
I only use AUM. In AUM I just use midi tape recorder to record mpe midi. That is not editable but I don't want to edit it anyway, so that does the job! Someone else can maybe comment on daws. I think I remember that xequence 2 is a good choice for an mpe sequencer. Not sure - MPE is a damn minefield lol
I'm almost certain Xequence 2 has MPE recording, but I'm sure you are seeking MPE in a traditional linear DAW
Yes, Xequence 2 has comprehensive and accurate MPE recording, per-note expression editing, and playback. It is also linear. The only thing it isn't is a DAW 😃
i believe Garageband records MPE - but no way to edit that
@Gavinski Thanks for reminding me about Midi Tape recorder just tried it using KB-1 to record MPE data in works good and is a quick solution.
I then sent the recording data out of Midi Tape Recorder to Soundbox which shows the X Y pads circles moving which is interesting 🤨
I know the MultiTrack Studio does MPE and Midi 2 implementation but I haven’t really clicked with that Daw fully as yet.
Will have to try that out cheers.
Sand can record and edit MPE. Just bought it, so I haven't done much with it, but it seems pretty cool and easy to handle.
It might still be on sale, too.
Are you sure? Neither its App Store description nor its user manual contain either "MPE" or "Expression".
Wasn’t aware that Sand had MPE been on the beta for a while aswell. I know it has a wide range of CC controls
Yes, I am sure, that's why I bought it. I've tried it, too (not extensively, though). I'm not sure, if I've read about or if it was in a video, I can't find it right now.
It's a bit weird, that it's not mentioned in the AppStore description or the version history. Maybe the dev considers it an experimental feature? Maybe he just hasn't gotten around to updating manual and description?
Edit: I can't entirely rule out, that I got things wrong and the recorded cc74 was just on one channel, but I think it wasn't. Anyway just try it the trial version is fully functional for some time.
I can confirm sand does record and edit MPE info. Just hooked my Roli Seabord and had a go with wave cloud:
It records all data in different automation channels.
And then you can edit no problem:
Sweet thanks for checking.
SAND really looks and feels good. I hope the dev resists the temptation to start adding features just because people ask, making it a mess in the process.
@AMBello Thanks for confirming:)
Sorry for the spam, but just to clarify: if you plan to do a lot of MPE editing, you might still consider Xequence as it not merely records controller data on separate channels, but "understands" MPE and thus allows you to:
Let me know if there's any issues along the way 😊
@SevenSystems Ok took a punt on the IAP haven’t really got any idea what I’m doing with MPE really as yet! Just experimenting. I assume each note can have glide and aftertouch. Is there a way to get accurate curves or does the resolution limit with just drawing in blocks as I tried in this video?
Without a physical MPE controller it’s limited to get notes in. I think iOS is limited when it comes to proper MPE midi devices ie keyboards etc. Can Xequence 2 keyboard do full MPE when playing in on it as tried but couldn’t get the glide effect ? Have you had any thoughts on updating it to full MPE if so ?
Thanks for the video!
Each note can have any controller attached to it, but by default it would be Pitch and Expression (i.e. Pitch Bend and CC 74).
To increase the resolution of drawn controller data, just make the editing grid finer before drawing (the ||| 1/4 menu in the bottom right toolbar). You can also turn it off to draw at arbitrary time resolution.
BTW, you're drawing and editing channel (i.e., "global") Pitch data in the video, not per-note data. If you want to edit or draw per-note data, you would first have to select exactly one note, and then switch to the controller editor using the "DATA TYPE" menu in the bottom toolbar.
And you're right, Xequence's internal keyboard does not yet support MPE, unfortunately. Would be great to have I agree!
Hope this helps!
@SevenSystems Cheers for the help, I need to do a lot more deep diving into this before I get my head around it. It’s been a long while since I used Xequence 2.
Sure, take your time! Am here for questions.