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JWM - The Search for the Perfect DAW EP

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  • ecouecou

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ecou said:

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    @ecou said:

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    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:
    You don’t need to search.. you already found what works best for you ;) It’s obviously NS2+Cubasis combination .. just accept drawbacks and weak places, entire life is about this - nothing is perfect, it’s about making peace in you with things as they are.. Endless hunt after perfecrton is wasted life time.

    Btw. automation in Auria is pure nigthmare and in AEM is also not ideal in my opinion in this area..

    What is a pure nightmare about automation in Auria?I do all my mix in Auria and it’s automation is of the easiest.

    I've never used Auria beyond mastering (this was before AUv3 became a thing and Auria had the FabFilter vsts as IAPs), so I'm curious to know what makes it easy for you @ecou versus what makes it hard for you @dendy . :)

    • subgroups and buses
    • Audio quantizing with warp and slicing modes
    • Transient slicing
    • All parameter exposed
    • About Drawing the automation . I would say to read the paragraph in the manual on how it works. Also using a pen helps. I have a cheap 30$ pen from Amazon. Works great.

    I had a feeling Auria had subgroups and busses, but I had. no clue about transient slicing and audio warp. Now that makes me want to take a second look into it! Also, I have an Apple Pencil Pro to go with my Mini 7 (it's how I toggle parameters in FabFilter plugins, lol).

    I forgot the PSP channel and Master strip. They sound very good and a included. No IAP needed. Very processing efficient.

    I mostly stick to IK Mixbus and the Toneboosters. That's all I need with the PSP stuff.

    Tonight I start mixing a song. I will be adding Scaler EQ. I'll report.

    Sounds good. Wishing you best of luck. :)

    Same to you in your exploration

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @ecou said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ecou said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ecou said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ecou said:

    @dendy said:
    You don’t need to search.. you already found what works best for you ;) It’s obviously NS2+Cubasis combination .. just accept drawbacks and weak places, entire life is about this - nothing is perfect, it’s about making peace in you with things as they are.. Endless hunt after perfecrton is wasted life time.

    Btw. automation in Auria is pure nigthmare and in AEM is also not ideal in my opinion in this area..

    What is a pure nightmare about automation in Auria?I do all my mix in Auria and it’s automation is of the easiest.

    I've never used Auria beyond mastering (this was before AUv3 became a thing and Auria had the FabFilter vsts as IAPs), so I'm curious to know what makes it easy for you @ecou versus what makes it hard for you @dendy . :)

    • subgroups and buses
    • Audio quantizing with warp and slicing modes
    • Transient slicing
    • All parameter exposed
    • About Drawing the automation . I would say to read the paragraph in the manual on how it works. Also using a pen helps. I have a cheap 30$ pen from Amazon. Works great.

    I had a feeling Auria had subgroups and busses, but I had. no clue about transient slicing and audio warp. Now that makes me want to take a second look into it! Also, I have an Apple Pencil Pro to go with my Mini 7 (it's how I toggle parameters in FabFilter plugins, lol).

    I forgot the PSP channel and Master strip. They sound very good and a included. No IAP needed. Very processing efficient.

    I mostly stick to IK Mixbus and the Toneboosters. That's all I need with the PSP stuff.

    Tonight I start mixing a song. I will be adding Scaler EQ. I'll report.

    Sounds good. Wishing you best of luck. :)

    Same to you in your exploration

    Thank you so kindly mate. :)

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    Musically I prefer the first Logic Pro section but I find it amazing how you flit between DAWs.
    I would take months and months to get to grips with anything other than AUM.
    Hope you find your ideal solution soon 👍

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @GeoTony said:
    Musically I prefer the first Logic Pro section but I find it amazing how you flit between DAWs.
    I would take months and months to get to grips with anything other than AUM.
    Hope you find your ideal solution soon 👍

    Thank you so kindly, my friend. :) Logic Pro was fun for a couple tracks, but honestly it just became too cumbersome with it forgetting the settings of a couple plugins. Wild, because otherwise it'd be a decent replacement for NS2 (especially with "clip automation").

    But that said, I've finally settled on sticking mostly with NS2 again. I also like Cubasis 3, but sometimes the automation section gives me an occasional headache (when I try to adjust an automation point, it sometimes scrolls all the way left back to the beginning of the song!). But what @LFS and company have done is monumental with 3.7 and Iconica Sketch. Recently made a holiday piece of music in NS2, and I used Iconica Sketch in it. Perfect sounding Bassoons, Violins, String Basses, and Glockenspiel for that piece. ;)

  • WyvernWyvern

    I like NS2 a lot and would say it’s the easiest DAW I’ve ever used, however, it’s unlikely it’ll ever be updated and no new features added, including IAPs. Who knows what’s going to happen to it over the next few years. If Matt ever came back with NS3 I’d be all over it.

    I know it’s still perfectly capable of producing good music as many regularly demonstrate but I think it’s time for me to move on to CB3 for all future work. As Doug from @thesoundtestroom said the other day, it’s got plenty of sounds to make plenty of music. I’ve got all the IAPs for it so it should be more than enough for my needs at least.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    Unreal! I thought I answered you mate. 😂

    @Wyvern said:
    I like NS2 a lot and would say it’s the easiest DAW I’ve ever used, however, it’s unlikely it’ll ever be updated and no new features added, including IAPs. Who knows what’s going to happen to it over the next few years. If Matt ever came back with NS3 I’d be all over it.

    Same here. I've given up on NS2. A great app for sure, but...

    I know it’s still perfectly capable of producing good music as many regularly demonstrate but I think it’s time for me to move on to CB3 for all future work. As Doug from @thesoundtestroom said the other day, it’s got plenty of sounds to make plenty of music. I’ve got all the IAPs for it so it should be more than enough for my needs at least.

    And Doug is absolutely correct 💯! After searching and trying out various iOS DAWs, I've finally made a selection for my DAW of choice - Cubasis 3. I have no idea how to place my finger on it, but my music sounds fuller, punchier, and more professional-sounding than from Nanostudio 2.

    Honestly, everything that's inside of Cubasis 3 (including the IAPs) makes me want for precious little else. The default reverb isn't that bad, but Roomworks is the mutt's nutts. And the Halion IAP is so good that I deleted Pure Synth Platinum and freed up 100gb storage space. (Honestly, all I wanted was a good saxophone sound which PSP2 has, but then comes along Halion, and its saxophones sound way better to my ears.)

    (Not to worry, Beathawk, Korg Module Pro and iM1 are safe from deletion since Beathawk has "world" sounds like the Celtic IAP, Module has American Model D Piano, and iM1 is perfect for many genres if I want to replicate a late 80s/early 90s vibe. 😂)

    And FM Classics and Neo FM are just mindboggling excellent! I also find myself reaching more and more for the included effects in Cubasis 3 as well, sometimes reaching for an external effect not covered by what's already in Cubasis. (Ngl, I still love Stratosphere Cloud Reverb. Has a dreamy, otherworldly effect.)

    The only thing Cubasis is currently lacking is a proper drum module to be honest. But Koala Sampler is the perfect app for drums (until maybe DM10 is released in a couple of weeks), and I usually only need once instance of Koala since each pad has its own built-in EQ!

    Of course it's a little slower to create in Cubasis 3 compared to Nanostudio 2, but that's okay. Cubasis 3 seems to make my productions sound more solid and professional. Maybe that's all in my head, I'm not sure. You be the judge...

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vfab47ai019vhjxh1csnm/jwm-020225-pop-inst-snippet-converted.m4a?rlkey=pxow6i6saugbtwrrl8mw3ygmh&st=zigcogm7&dl=0

    ...and yes, that's an upcoming Pop song. 😉

    Nanostudio 2 was my top DAW, but I wanted to learn another DAW in case NS2 becomes deprecated by an iOS update. Hasn't happened yet, but who's to say it won't? I'm not so much into "future proofing" my projects, because once I finish a project, I finish a project, master it, and upload to SoundCloud. Now, if I ever need to remake a production, I'll just simply remake it.

    In fact, the Pop song instrumental snippet I linked above is a remake of a song I made about a year or so ago. That older version sounded rather cheap. The Cubasis remake sounds far more solid, deep and punchy!

    So in short - Cubasis is my perfect DAW (well, for me personally that is).

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