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Koala instrument question

Can koala make a multisampled instrument? For example, ive recorded several samples of an instrument, c2, d#2, F#2, A2, etc. and i would like to create an instrument in koala where these samples are at the correct keyboard mapping. I dont see anywhere that i can creat note range mappings for this. Thanks.

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  • Wouldn’t you just label the pads which what key they are?

    Do you have the Samurai update? It lets you have a piano roll so you can have the keyboard to play samples in different scales. I could be wrong that it’s only on that update but I’m pretty sure.

  • Koala isn’t set up for “proper” multi sampling — you get one sample per pad. Each sample can be played chromatically, but if you want different samples for each note, you need to use multiple pads as outlined in the previous comment.

  • @jrjulius said:
    Koala isn’t set up for “proper” multi sampling — you get one sample per pad. Each sample can be played chromatically, but if you want different samples for each note, you need to use multiple pads as outlined in the previous comment.

    Any apps on iOS that are set up properly for what op is looking for? Would Drambo flexi samplers functionally provide this?

  • wimwim
    edited December 8

    There are probably others, but of the ones I have ...

  • If I’m understanding the idea, the work around for me would be. Go into the sequencing add all your notes where they’ll play simultaneously. Resample into a new pad, does that make sense?

  • wimwim
    edited December 8

    In a nutshell, there is simply no practical way to do what is being asked in Koala. Only read on if you care to understand why. 😉

    A multi-sampler works by doing pitch shift over ranges of notes for multiple samples. For instance, if you have 12 samples from something like a piano, with one sample recorded by playing the C note from every octave on the keyboard. You then load these 12 samples on the corresponding C notes of the multi-sampler, and it pitch stretches each of them within the ranges of notes you define. In this case you'd probably set each range for C-B of the octave of each sample.

    The idea is to minimize the pitch stretching, as the more you pitch adjust a sample the more its sound is altered. Koala can pitch-stretch only a single sample per pad, which results in a lot of alteration of the sound if you play a broad range.

    To mimic something like this in Koala, you'd have to load one sample per pad and only play a limited number of notes on that pad using the keyboard. But what about the other samples? They are pitched differently. You would have to adjust the pitch of each one, then only play the intended notes within that pad. There would be no way in the app to play all those pads in that manner. Also, the range of pitch shift is too small for a full-range sample set.

    If one did go to all that work and could make an acceptable multi-sample setup with it, then it might be possible to play it from an external midi source. You'd have to send notes on a different midi channel for each note range. So you'd have to use a keyboard splitter app of some kind. Any sequence you recorded in Koala would be smattered across multiple pads. It would be an utter mess.

    That would end up being a bit like trying to make a bicycle out of an apple tree. I suppose it could be done but its not at all practical. The apps I linked above have multi-samplers that can do this. With MIDI out, they could be played from Koala's sequencer.

  • edited December 9

    @offbrands said:

    @jrjulius said:
    Koala isn’t set up for “proper” multi sampling — you get one sample per pad. Each sample can be played chromatically, but if you want different samples for each note, you need to use multiple pads as outlined in the previous comment.

    Any apps on iOS that are set up properly for what op is looking for? Would Drambo flexi samplers functionally provide this?

    Ha, yes, that’s an extremely reasonable follow-up question. Now I’m worried that I might be turning into an “internet guy” that’s more interested in explaining why OP’s idea won’t work than considering a slightly-different idea that might work…

    Thankfully @wim nailed it. I’ve created multi-sampled instruments in Drambo’s Sampler module and honestly, as someone with limited experience in modular, it was probably the easiest part of Drambo. I didn’t quite click with Beatmaker 3 but I did purchase the multi-sampled Ludwig drum kit when I was trying to learn it, and the multi-sampler seems super powerful!

    If OP is set on Koala then as wim outlined, it’s not capable of being an efficient multisampler. But if OP’s time is worth less to them than a new app, they could always load up to 63 chromatic samples (one per pad, saving at least one pad for resampling), resample a performance, then load up to 62 new samples, on and on.

  • Thanks for the answers. i have already been using drambo and audiolayer for this, i just wanted to know if i can do it in koala. Drambo does it but not well as it does not have a crossfade for sustaining notes. Thanks, ill use audiolayer

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