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Does anybody here still use Quantum sequencer?
I have always been a fan of step sequencers, and I began with hardware ones like the Doepfer Maq. I then began trying the IOS iPad sequencer Quantum. I still think it's amazing, but one big problem is it's not Auv3. I have tried using it as a "hardware" setup using my iPad and connecting it to my desktop DAW, Ableton. I tried using it via Ableton Link, but for all my efforts, I could never get it to work. It just doesn't show up as a host. I then tried doing a little Ipad hack using AUM, and using it as an audio channel. It kind of works, but buggy and has huge latency. In AUM though the Ableton link works. So, to get to my point, how is this working for anyone else, or is it a dead dinosaur? I know there are now some nice new AUV3 step sequencers like Midi Step or Thesys, but I always like different ones and Quantum is still cool in a way. Thanks
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I suggest contacting the developer Anthony Saunders @midiSequencer
There's an email address in his profile. Historically, he's been responsive.
It doesn't sound like you're connecting your iPad properly. Ableton Link is only for timing, it doesn't transmit MIDI at all. I can't say I understand the audio channel hack you're describing, but I can't imagine that would work either. Just to be clear, this connectivity problem doesn't have anything to do with Quantum directly. You've got to get the MIDI connection to Ableton set up in a way that works generically first.
Before going further, are you using a PC or a Mac to run Ableton?
I’ve used Quantum to connect to instruments in AUM and even some IAA. Never have I had a problem. Haven’t checked w hardware though.
How did you manage to do this? I can't really find a way to get that to work. I'm using a Iconnectivity 4C midi which works normally well for sending midi from my iPad to my desktop.
this sequencer doesn't keep in time.... well last time i tried it years ago. couldn't use it.
Hmmm,. I find it kind of cool, but useless because if this problem. I thought it was just me.
I then don't see how this is meant to work in a real life studio environment.
Maybe Midi Step or something is better?
I have successfully used Quantum sequencer with AUM on my iPad and synced it using Ableton link, and just tried it again, and seems to still be working with iOS 18. There are a few conversations on this in the forum including the one below. You may need to into the settings in Quantum and find your MIDI interface and choose "Y" as an output source for the MIDI. I have a CME USB to MIDI interface, which I use to send MIDI back and forth to Cakewalk on my PC, so I'll try it later.
https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/31293/could-you-help-me-with-quantum-sync-in-aum/p1
Thanks. How are you using it with AUM? Are you using it as a separate app and via Ableton Link? I will maybe try getting more into it. For some reason I still like Quantum, even though it's a bit quirky (like me:)) This thread (link) you sent me looks so far very helpful.
Update - I haven't tried it to my PC yet but I plugged in my CME MIDI to USB adapter and configured Quantum Sequencer to send MIDI data to it as an output, and the LED's on it are flashing, showing that it is receiving from Quantum and the iPad. Can you check and make sure that your Iconnectivity 4C is showing in the list of output devices in Quantum and set to Yes for output? See below for my config:
Hi, thanks again for your effortts and help here. I don't have any issues sending midi data out from Quantum to my desktop via the 4C. That works fine. The problem I have is Quantum won't start or stop via Ableton Link. It doesn't show up in Quantum as a connecting peer. If it would start and stop via Ableton how it should , I'd be probably ok. I would then have to adjust the latency somehow.
Got it - so the issue is getting Ableton on the desktop to talk to the Ableton link peer in Quantum. Does the BPM sync up if you change it in Ableton or Quantum (I'm going to guess not)? I've used Ableton Link with several apps on iPad, and while my knowledge of it is limited, there are typically two options in the iOS apps - Sync with Ableton Link and Start/Stop with peer.
I don't have Ableton or I would certainly try it out. The fact that Ableton doesn't show up in Qauntum as a peer does seem to indicate a communication or compatibility problem, but not with the MIDI equipment, since it works with AUM.
I would also recommend trying the developer, Anthony Saunders as already mentioned, and see if you get response, if you want to pursue it further. I reached out to him over email a couple of years ago, and he was very helpful and friendly.
Regarding Midistep, I'm a huge 4Pockets fan, and I think it's a great app, but a completely different beast than Quantum, which I also really like, and I get a kick out of making these unique and often old iOS apps work and getting the most out of them. There's several out there that still have capabilities that I can't find elsewhere.
I think it's an issue between Quantum and Ableton. I've tried other apps like Drambo and Pure Acid they sync up well and work perfectly.
Yeah , I think I'll grab the Midi Steps as it seems very good and the developer seems to be working hard on it. Also Cykle is great too.
Still software only, but link works for me with AUM
Yes, it works for me to AUM, but how then do you host Quantum into AUM as it's not AUV3. A hardware sequencer probably would solve the problem, like an Aturia Beatstep Pro, but I am still thinking and trying to do that style with just an iPad and my midi interface.
@Antos3345 well IAA apps which Quantum is one can be “hosted in AUM”
More accurately it can be loaded into AUM in AUDIO channel - not midi because it is an IAA protocol.
Importantly it is almost necessary to launch any IAA apps before loading them in a DAW or AUM, as they must announce themselves before to host arrives.
Ymmv but is resents in a smoother workflow
There will NO sound out of Quantum’s channel because it’s all midi signals, but it still needs to be loaded that way because IAA protocol. This way you can switch between Quantum (which should have a small transport control superimposed with an AUM icon you can press) and AUM.
Sorry if my sentences are convoluted in any way - trying to do too many things today
Thanks, and that is the way I have tried to use it It does work in AUM, but not so tight. I may try Midi Steps as it's AUV3:)
i don't believe sample accurate timing was implemented. i remember it just didn't keep tight which you would expect with software midi app. in the back of my mind i think i let it run for like 5 mins to see how out of sync it went. it's an old app and my mind is wonky.
Midi Steps and other sequencers are honestly the way forward... as much as i love quantum the smoother workflow always wins out and Paul of 4pockets certainly has evolved MidiSteps -- its like one of those ScoobyDoo table sized hoagies now
Yes, I agree. Quantum I guess goes in the closet.. I will move on. All of this connectivity and setting up slows down any creativity and makes me get angry.
Too many moving parts for sure. Not to mention, a sequencer that doesn’t keep time?