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Im about to ditch Loopy, unless someone helps me - VIDEO

ive almost had it with loopy, im hoping someone can solve this issue, ive tried everything and cant seem to get this issue solved. in the DAW of loopy, random tracks play either way off where i place the track or they play even when there is no track placed, here in the video you can see the blue and yellow layers, yellow layer plays the track way before it reaches where i placed the track, and blue even though there is no track on that layer, it still plays, i hope this is some simple fix, because i do enjoy working with loopy, but im pulling my hair out here, anyone can help me please, and thank you. here is a video of my issue

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  • @guitarhero07 said:
    ive almost had it with loopy, im hoping someone can solve this issue, ive tried everything and cant seem to get this issue solved. in the DAW of loopy, random tracks play either way off where i place the track or they play even when there is no track placed, here in the video you can see the blue and yellow layers, yellow layer plays the track way before it reaches where i placed the track, and blue even though there is no track on that layer, it still plays, i hope this is some simple fix, because i do enjoy working with loopy, but im pulling my hair out here, anyone can help me please, and thank you. here is a video of my issue

    Please send a zip of the project to [email protected] and a link to this thread and we'll look into it.

    Does this happen if playback starts from the beginning of the timeline?

    Are there any follow actions or MIDI bindings that might be triggering clips to play or stop?

  • both beginning and if i start form mid timeline, other tracks do the same, its random and pretty annoying
    no follow actions and im sure no midi bindings either, funny enough this morning i check and it seems to be ok,,,is it because i rebooted the ipad!!! very strange

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    both beginning and if i start form mid timeline, other tracks do the same, its random and pretty annoying
    no follow actions and im sure no midi bindings either, funny enough this morning i check and it seems to be ok,,is it because i rebooted the ipad!!! very strange

    I can’t speculate what is going on. Note that if you start a sequence in the middle, if you have clips that are set to play in the other tab, they will play when you start the transport (by design).

    If the problem recurs, send a copy of the zipped project to support with instructions for reproducing the issue.

  • other tab? as in A and B pages?
    here is this mornings issue, same thing happening, i only have one page im working on, simple track, at random times this happens. i come from fruity loops, abelton live and propeller head DAW's was looking for a more simple way to design music, loopy seems to be it but having these issues. i will have to save and email you the project so you can take a look

  • ok this most def. seems to be a bug in the program, because when i exit loopy and relaunch, all works fine. so im sure even if i send you the work file it will be fine on your end.

  • Call me "Jim, the summoner", because I'll summon @Michael to see if he can get to the bottom of this. :) Best of luck on getting the solution.

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    ok this most def. seems to be a bug in the program, because when i exit loopy and relaunch, all works fine. so im sure even if i send you the work file it will be fine on your end.

    In order to understand what is going on, it would be helpful to see the steps that precede the problem: to see the series of actions you are performing from the time you open the project when it plays fine until it misbehaves.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Call me "Jim, the summoner", because I'll summon @Michael to see if he can get to the bottom of this. :) Best of luck on getting the solution.

    I've got my best man on it! @espiegel123 will help diagnose and I'll get the fix sorted ASAP. This isn't something we've seen before, I believe, so we gotta do a bit of exploration to figure out wtf is going on.

  • @Michael said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Call me "Jim, the summoner", because I'll summon @Michael to see if he can get to the bottom of this. :) Best of luck on getting the solution.

    I've got my best man on it! @espiegel123 will help diagnose and I'll get the fix sorted ASAP. This isn't something we've seen before, I believe, so we gotta do a bit of exploration to figure out wtf is going on.

    Excellent to hear. :) @espiegel123 is a godsend.

  • edited December 13

    @guitarhero07 : by "other tab", I meant the loops page.

    For demonstrating the problem, making a screen recording on the iPad itself would probably be helpful. Start a screen recording, open your project. Play the sequence from the beginning and let it play through. Then do what you have been doing until it misbehaves.

    When you long-press on the transport button in the sequencer, what setting is it on? Is it set to reset playhead on stop?

    If not, try turning that on.

    If there is a bug, I want to get to the bottom of it so that we can address it. It may take some general troubleshooting since we haven't seen anything like this before.

  • just to be clear, i do not have any follow actions or anything of that nature, my setup is quite simple, couple of keyboards and a synth and a guitar hooked up to audiofuse interface running through a USB dongle to the ipad,
    im not sure how i would screen record, again im not very technical, just a guitarist :)
    if it will help i can certainly send my work project to be examined.

  • another pointer, this has been happening even on new projects

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    just to be clear, i do not have any follow actions or anything of that nature, my setup is quite simple, couple of keyboards and a synth and a guitar hooked up to audiofuse interface running through a USB dongle to the ipad,
    im not sure how i would screen record, again im not very technical, just a guitarist :)
    if it will help i can certainly send my work project to be examined.

    Here is information about how to screen record:

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/102653

    Seeing the actions that you are performing between when the sequence plays back correctly and when it stops playing back correctly will help us identify the problem so that we can address it in the software — and may help us help you avoid the issue in the meantime.

    Since this isn’t an issue that has been reported before, it may be due a particular combination of settings or user actions.

    So, we need to get a sense of what transpires between when it is working and when it stops working.

  • another quick update, now i have noticed when i tap to go say a few bars to the left and play track again to fine tune the track placement, the track plays at a completely different bar, i have to play from the start every time, no way i can edit on the go, here is a video of it,,,PS, i dont have that button on my ipad to record, im using a fairly new iphad 8th gen just a few years old, here is what ill do, i will try this on my iphone 13 and see if the issue persists, another thing ill do is delete all the audio units, maybe there is a glitch there.

  • @guitarhero07 : all ipads and iphones can be set to screen record. On the page about how to screen record there are instructions for adding the widget for it to Control Center if it is not visible there.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/102653

    What happens for you if instead of tapping in the timeline while it is running if you pause, tap where you want to start then press start?

  • allright, i found the record option, but my question is,, what is the difference between screen recording and me recording with my phone as i have above? you still get to see what im doing!!

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    allright, i found the record option, but my question is,, what is the difference between screen recording and me recording with my phone as i have above? you still get to see what im doing!!

    When you screen record, we can see the entire screen. When you do the handheld videos, we sometimes are only seeing some of the screen. Some of the details we don’t see might be relevant. In this case, the missing details might not matter, but they matter often enough that it is good to be able to see everything.

    Before making the next recording please do try the following things:

    • long-press on the transport’s play button and turn on Reset Playhead on Stop. Then play the sequence and stop and press play again and see if the sequence plays correctly.
    • If that works, when the transport is stopped, tap in the timeline area to reposition the playhead. If you do that, do the correct tracks play?

    When you make next video, I would be great if you were arrange the onscreen track order so that all the tracks that sound are on screen.

    You can tap and drag on the left edge of the sequencer to drag tracks to a different position.

  • here is a new video, towards the end i click and unclick SEQ and it seems to go back to normal hmmm

  • edited December 18

    @guitarhero07 said:
    here is a new video, towards the end i click and unclick SEQ and it seems to go back to normal hmmm

    What preceded your pressing play? Were pressing play immediately after opening the project?

    Can you zip the project and send it to [email protected]

  • I had the same issue as you, @guitarhero07 .
    Things eventually went back to normal. I do remember what I did before things acted up, and I remember what I did afterwards to resolve it. I just need some time late tonight sleeping hours for everybody else, to see if I can repeat this bug.

  • multiple tasks were done before going to daw and pressing play, too many tasks so i really dont remember my steps, the project im working on is pretty complex, i will try and do another simple project with simple working bench to see if this happens, but now i have noticed no matter what at random times thsi happens and only way to fix it is to close app and relaunch

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    multiple tasks were done before going to daw and pressing play, too many tasks so i really dont remember my steps, the project im working on is pretty complex, i will try and do another simple project with simple working bench to see if this happens, but now i have noticed no matter what at random times thsi happens and only way to fix it is to close app and relaunch

    We’d love to be able to address it. If you would do a screen recording on the device that starts before you open the project so that we can see what precedes the problem that would be helpful. We need to see what leads to the issue…and a copy of the project.

    So far, we’ve only seen what happens after the problem starts. We’d like to see the steps that lead up to the problem. There may be a particular step or series of steps that triggers it.

    When it starts happening, have you tried switching to the other page and turning off all the clips?

  • i will record and send you the file sometime this week, but just to let you know, its not any specificity task that this happens after, because this morning i launched loopy went to the daw and pressed play and sure enough it was doing the same thing.
    now other layers are doing playing early, some layers playing late etc

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    i will record and send you the file sometime this week, but just to let you know, its not any specificity task that this happens after, because this morning i launched loopy went to the daw and pressed play and sure enough it was doing the same thing.
    now other layers are doing playing early, some layers playing late etc

    If you have a project that plays incorrectly when opened , send it to us.

  • i might have figured out the issue, this cold be due to microfading in and out a donuts, if the donut has micro fade fade-in assigned, in the daw it will play early before it hits the actual sample, and if micro fade is fade-out, in the daw it will play the sample later on the timeline even after passing the main track. i wish there was some way to control each sample on the daw track by assigning fade in and fade out like how regular DAW's offer e.g abelton, logic, etc. or maybe there is a way?

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    i might have figured out the issue, this cold be due to microfading in and out a donuts, if the donut has micro fade fade-in assigned, in the daw it will play early before it hits the actual sample, and if micro fade is fade-out, in the daw it will play the sample later on the timeline even after passing the main track. i wish there was some way to control each sample on the daw track by assigning fade in and fade out like how regular DAW's offer e.g abelton, logic, etc. or maybe there is a way?

    Microfades happen within the bounds of the loop. They are very short time scale fades from and to 0 at clip boundaries that prevent clicks and generally don't impact transients. They don't cause playback to start early. The only feature that results in a clip starting before its boundary is intro playback.

    Since, most clips in most projects have microfades, I suspect that there is something else involved. You can globally turn them off or on or by color or by individual clip.

    I would love for us to be able to get to the bottom of the problem you are having. I would expect that if it were just an issue of microfades that the issue would be more widespread.

    It would help immensely if you could send a project that has the problem (after zipping it) to [email protected] with a description of the steps to reproduce the problem.

    You said that you have a project that plays wrong when you first open it. Can you send it to us and post a screenrecording or video of the playback so that we can see if we get the same result so that we can fix the problem?

  • the file i have is 333MB, my phone wont let me send an email with file size this big, not sure how to go about sending you this file

  • @guitarhero07 said:
    the file i have is 333MB, my phone wont let me send an email with file size this big, not sure how to go about sending you this file

    Upload it to Google Drive or Dropbox or other file-sharing site and send us a link. Make sure to also send directions for making the problem happen.

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