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Fiddlewax pro vs
Interested in fiddlewax pro but just wondered how it compares with any others apps
I'm thinking stuff like
Kong gadget, obvious difference is its a closed system and electronic based
Yamaha mobile sequencer, bit more obscure but looks functionally similar
Cubasis looks similar but has less built in playing features
Anything else? Or just general thoughts from users good or bad
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If you do a search, there are some pretty great threads on this site with Fiddlewax Pro and its developer. These talk extensively about what the app does and doesn't do, and some features a few of us would like to see added.
While I understand where you came up with Korg Gadget and a few others as "comparison" apps, it's really quite different than those, and if you expect it to be like any other specific app, you will be disappointed.
The best to explain it is that it's a musical sketchpad with a few built-in sampled instruments, but its primary purpose is to create loops or MIDI data that can be exported to other apps and improved upon. The developer himself would tell you that the sounds within the app, while pretty good, are not meant to compete with full featured synths and other instrument apps.
It is a MIDI controller, in the sense that it can control external apps with MIDI Out. So, you can use the app to control an app like Sunrizer, and then you get scale/mode specific chords, keyboards, and scales. (The developer had a similar app - Fiddlewax Blue - that is $3 and is like a "lite" version of this functionality).
It is a looper with quanitzation. You can layer notes and drum hits on top of each other (and it has an "undo" feature). The acoustic and electronic drum kits are actually pretty good, but you could also export that raw MIDI data to another app and have the pattern run a customized set.
So no, it isn't like Gadget, which has a much larger variety of sounds. It isn't like Cubasis because it isn't a full-featured DAW. It's a sketching tool, and while it may not be for everyone, I've seen several people here making good use out of it to create musical ideas with an all-on-one-screen interface. And the developer is about as responsive as any on this forum have been, and has literally already adopted suggestions from me and a few other AB Forum posters.
Thanks for the detailed comparison @StormJH1. Well put.
@Jose_Bee - I'm the Fiddlewax Pro developer. I agree with what's been said, in particular that it's designed to be a versatile starting point for creating new music.
By including all the fundamental instrumentation and building blocks in a single screen, you can quickly jump back and forth -- creating melodies, laying down rhythms, adding chord progressions, harmonies, solo riffs, and layering it all together with a multi-channel looper. Everything is available in parallel without needing to swap around components or change views (which differs from the other apps you've mentioned).
Fiddlewax Pro is meant to be thought of as a musical instrument, not an instrument app or digital audio workstation (DAW). It doesn't come preloaded with groove tracks or pre-arranged styles; it does however include lots of helpful dynamic constraints informed by music theory based on tonic, mode, and scale. Ideally it's there to help you get musical ideas out of your head and into audio.
There have already been 2 updates since it was first released (less than a month ago) and it's evolving pretty substantially. If you have thoughts or run into any issues, definitely let me know and I'll work to make it better for everyone.
Cheers, Adam
So is Genome a better comparison? As in it sequences midi?
Just for the record. Cubasis and Fiddlewax are not even remotely similar.
@Fitz said:
Only in the sense that both create MIDI data. Other than that, no, not similar.
Genome is a step sequencer - you program notes on a grid and those are sent to other instruments via Core or Virtual MIDI.
FW Pro has no visual interface for editing MIDI data. But unlike Genome, it has about a dozen instruments in the app. You create actual multi-part audio tracks in FW which can be exported as audio or MIDI data.
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Can't get Doug's Videocast out of my head now; would like to hear/see a discussion between @adamkumpf and @StormJH1 about this app, but also about an independent developer's interaction -pros and cons- with users etc.
Haven't read the whole thread, but my two cents. I am a guitarist and bassist looking for tools to jam with, and lay down chord progressions to accompany me. I'm also thinking maybe someday to compose some music.
Many iOS tools assume you want to work with MIDI. MIDI bars on a line, MIDI controllers, etc. Gadget, for example, let's you play, but if you don't know piano (and I don't well), you are generally working with MIDI to make chords and notes. In my experience, composing on MIDI grids is not inspiring or intuitive. And it's not as easy as it should be to have music that works harmonically or in key.
So... for me... Fiddlewax Pro should compete with:
All tools that lay down chord progressions and let me play along.
It's too early to tell for sure how it's going to work out. More than most or all iOS tools, Fiddlewax is a fast path way to make harmonically pleasing chord and melodies. Faster than even what I can do on my guitar... to be honest! Will it be as inspiring... maybe not. We'll see.
Cheers,