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What Features from NS2 Would You Like To See In CB3?

Are there any features from NS2 you would like to see @LFS add to CB3? Something like Slate would be good. I’d also like to be able to type in the tempo. Drag handles would be welcome 😀

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  • For me personally, Cubasis' 3.7 release makes it close to perfect for me. All that's missing is a drum module like Slate. Yes, I can technically use Sitala, Koala, OneShot, etc, but I'd prefer it be native to Cubasis. :) That's just my hot take.

  • edited December 2024

    @Wyvern said:
    Are there any features from NS2 you would like to see @LFS add to CB3? Something like Slate would be good. I’d also like to be able to type in the tempo. Drag handles would be welcome 😀

    There’s easily a lot on the dream list but as a simple, realistic expectation I will nominate the ‘dark mode’ piano roll editor (audio editor needs dark mode as well).

    CB3 interface is pleasantly darkened when you select the ‘dark’ user interface option (even the ‘Grey’ option isn’t bad). However, as soon as you open either the midi or audio editor the glaring brightness is back to light up your otherwise darkened room and that can be pretty blinding.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2024

    NS2's piano roll sequencer is great. Nothing but Xequence 2 comes close. Cubasis' piano roll isn't bad either, so that's not a big one. I don't care about a drum sequencer; piano roll is find for that for me, but I know most people want that.

    A better drum sampler would be great. I don't really care though 'cause I have all the AUv3 plugins I need for that.

    So with tempo track and time signatures now there, I don't wish for any other features for my simple uses. I've no desire to see Cubasis turn into Logic Pro or a full Desktop DAW. I'll use desktop for that level of project finishing, thank you very much. 😉

    Like iOS/iPadOS, I don't hunger for features. I hunger only for improved stability and refinement of existing features.

    That's not what seems to win new customers though, so I expect more bells 'n whistles I don't really need. That's OK.

  • @GrnEgz_N_Hm Man, I didn't consider that. I agree that @LFS should provide this quality-of-life update to keep the UI uniform in whatever mode it's in. 💯

    @wim "I've no desire to see Cubasis turn into Logic Pro". Neither do I, with all of LP4i's instabilities and funky menu diving UI. 😂 (I'm half-joking.) Cubasis 3 is definitely rock solid now compared to when it was first released as the successor to Cubasis 2.

    The time stretching of audio that happens when automating the tempo is definitely the "NS2 Killer" for me personally. Glad that time sig changes are in there too.

  • @wim said:
    NS2's piano roll sequencer is great. Nothing but Xequence 2 comes close. Cubasis' piano roll isn't bad either, so that's not a big one. I don't care about a drum sequencer; piano roll is find for that for me, but I know most people want that.

    A better drum sampler would be great. I don't really care though 'cause I have all the AUv3 plugins I need for that.

    So with tempo track and time signatures now there, I don't wish for any other features for my simple uses. I've no desire to see Cubasis turn into Logic Pro or a full Desktop DAW. I'll use desktop for that level of project finishing, thank you very much. 😉

    Like iOS/iPadOS, I don't hunger for features. I hunger only for improved stability and refinement of existing features.

    That's not what seems to win new customers though, so I expect more bells 'n whistles I don't really need. That's OK.

    I agree with a lot of your overall statement. This platform is near optimal for the mobile form factor. Beyond a certain point it’s time to shift to a desktop platform. I would still urge for the following though..

    1. Better midi mapping support especially for 3rd party plugins.
    2. Better audio routing (we could use mix busses).

    Otherwise this platform has come a long way. I am really thankful and appreciative of the progress the CB team has made over the yrs and they have a lot to be proud of.

  • While I would to see some features similar to other ios apps like NS2 Slate etc in Cubasis, but I've not been keeping up with the development of its big brother Cubase and I'm presuming that most features have some link to the development of that...I may be wrong though.

  • edited December 2024

    “I've no desire to see Cubasis turn into Logic Pro or a full Desktop DAW. I'll use desktop for that level of project finishing, thank you very much. 😉”—Wim

    I for one. DO want full desktop capability on here . I don’t own a laptop or desktop and don’t want to . I’m all iOS , all the time . Bring on the perfections, I say bith major and minor .

  • I would love to see clip references (also known as ghost parts, clip aliases, linked clips, etc.)

    Basically the option to point to an original clip when duplicating it rather than making a copy, so that editing the original will update all linked parts. It makes things like modifying drum parts in a structured song so much easier.

    NS2 and Xequence support this, among other apps. Even Cubase itself had this feature ages ago.

    I've been regularly making this feature request for about 10 years now (since Cubasis 1.0), and seeing other features like the tempo track implemented gives me hope that I might see this one too one day.

  • @busker

    Thanks for saving me the typing!

  • I just want Gadget’s and FL’s ability to lock pianoroll to scale.

  • groups and sends architecture .. what is in CB3 is way too limited for me

  • NS2 die hard here. Just moved over to Logic which can be painful for a number of reasons. I have done things in Cubasis and they turned out well. But NS2 has a couple of features that make (made) it my go to.

    Workflow

    Most anything you want to do is very close to the surface. Not much drilling down. Intuitive.

    MIDI editing

    Being able to select and then operate on all types of data vertically as well as horizontally. E.g. dragging from the bottom up or top down to select higher or lower values. This applies to notes, velocities, and cc data.
    The arrows to precisely move values horizontally or vertically without dragging. The x/y selectors in cb3 at least prevent dragging something inadvertently but requires additional tapping.

    Obsidian

    An integrated highly configurable synth. Almost any aspect of a sound can be tweaked and controlled by almost anything else. E.g. You can fine tune the slopes of all eg steps. You can assign cc to anything. This is the problem I have with cb new synths - only a small handful of parameters are modifiable and it varies with every instrument. Having a single synth that can do almost anything means you don’t need to stop your creative flow to plug in another synth and remember how it works.

    Stability

    Never, ever crashes.

    NS2 does have its issues, most of which can be attributed to the discontinuation of development. The only reason i stopped using it is the cliff it will eventually fall off.

  • In house guitar tuner.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2024

    I've used NS2 and Cubasis for years, and never once has someone come to my house to tune my guitar. That would be sweet.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2024

    @busker said:
    I would love to see clip references (also known as ghost parts, clip aliases, linked clips, etc.)

    Basically the option to point to an original clip when duplicating it rather than making a copy, so that editing the original will update all linked parts. It makes things like modifying drum parts in a structured song so much easier.

    NS2 and Xequence support this, among other apps. Even Cubase itself had this feature ages ago.

    I've been regularly making this feature request for about 10 years now (since Cubasis 1.0), and seeing other features like the tempo track implemented gives me hope that I might see this one too one day.

    Good one. Yes, that would be top on my list too.

  • @wim said:
    I've used NS2 and Cubasis for years, and never once has someone come to my house to tune my guitar. That would be sweet.

    Hahahaahhsha

    ….

    Hahahahah

  • @wim said:
    NS2's piano roll sequencer is great. Nothing but Xequence 2 comes close. Cubasis' piano roll isn't bad either, so that's not a big one. I don't care about a drum sequencer; piano roll is find for that for me, but I know most people want that.

    THIS!!!!!!!!

    I don’t know what they did in NS2 but that piano roll is AMAZING so easy to use with my big ass meat paws. I mean so easy to select and move and adjust with my caveman finger sausages! It is so clean and accurate. Not a feature but the usability of it is the best. You would think a midi piano roll is a “midi piano roll” but NO. I actually get frustrated with the Cubasis piano roll banging on it and slapping it like a retarded monkey. For some reason the NS2 piano roll is more responsive and just better than any other I have come across, it is why if I am only sequencing I still use NS2

  • What about song arrangement like Logic does on desktop with where you can duplicate , move interchange part of the song like verse chorus intro.

  • I don't use NS2 but I would like to see a midi randomize/humanize tool that would give many options to randomize settings like note velocity, note start , note end . It would also have percentage of how much the randomize can affect the note.

  • @wim said:
    I've used NS2 and Cubasis for years, and never once has someone come to my house to tune my guitar. That would be sweet.

    You’re in the wrong neighborhood.

  • godgod
    edited December 2024

    @busker said:
    I would love to see clip references (also known as ghost parts, clip aliases, linked clips, etc.)

    Basically the option to point to an original clip when duplicating it rather than making a copy, so that editing the original will update all linked parts. It makes things like modifying drum parts in a structured song so much easier.

    NS2 and Xequence support this, among other apps. Even Cubase itself had this feature ages ago.

    I've been regularly making this feature request for about 10 years now (since Cubasis 1.0), and seeing other features like the tempo track implemented gives me hope that I might see this one too one day.

    This! So much needed. I’ve been waiting for ghost parts for years.

    Another feature I’d like is stacked clips within single track or even several tracks per one instrument instance. Being able to stack clips on top of one another within the track helps with layering beats, using multiple tracks for one instance helps save RAM and CPU.

  • @busker said:
    I would love to see clip references (also known as ghost parts, clip aliases, linked clips, etc.)

    [...]

    NS2 and Xequence support this, among other apps. Even Cubase itself had this feature ages ago.

    Funny, that reminds me of my jaw actually dropping through the entire earth when I "upgraded" from Cubase (pure MIDI) to Cubase Audio or whatever and that most crucial feature in ANY sequencer was simply GONE 😂 Insane!

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