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Logic + LaunchKey 4 = transport and interface control! š
Just picked up a LaunchKey Mk4 (25 key mini version) and really happy to find you can map all the QWERTY keystroke commands in Logic Pro for iPad to the custom pad sets.
This gives access to transport, cycle, undo, track selection, all the different modes (edit, mixer, plug-in, etc.) as well as a heap of other options.
I'm really surprised how much of a step forward this midi controller is - and the screen that reflects feedback with names of tracks and controllers, as well as chord identification, is brilliant.
The keybed still sucks in comparison to Arturia's mini keys, IMHO, but the rest of the features (including chord and arpeggio modes) are miles ahead of any other controller I know of.
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Yeah itās awesome. I use the mk3 and thereās a ton of iOS apps itās compatible with, or can be mapped to.
@zzrwood oh really??? I have an MK4 37 mini and had no idea you could map the transport controls in Logic. How exactly do you do this?
The dream for me would be if the Live Loops auto mapped to the pads when you're in DAW mode, but I'm staying hopeful ...and would really appreciate if anyone reading this would pass along that suggestion Apple! š¤
@bluegroove To map transport and various interface controls you need to use Novation Components software on a Mac/PC attached to the Launchkey. There is a web version but I couldnāt get it to work on iPad. Then you can create a custom pad setup and when you select each pad you can choose between a number of options for what the pad will send - note, cc, keystroke, etc. You can also set a different colour for each pad (e.g. I picked red for record) and name the pads (name will appear on display on Launchkey when pad pressed).
Here is a list of all the keystroke commands Logic accepts (you canāt use the ones needing to be held):
https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/logicpro-ipad/lpip32bdea6b/ipados
Iāve got the standard 25 key mk4, mine has the normal sized keys and theyāre actually pretty good - better than my previous Launchkey.
I havenāt used it with desktop Logic or any iOS stuff yet, but itās Ableton Live integration is excellent.
Easily the best MIDI controller Iāve purchased - and Iāve had quite a few!
Have you tried it with Logic Pro for iPad (Iām assuming youāre referring to the desktop version)? If itās working well with that, I might have to re-subscribe.
Brilliant! I love Components, but never thought of mapping Logic for iPad keystroke commands to the pads. Looking forward to testing this out, thanks!
Iām referring to Logic for iPad (have edited original post to clarify).
@zzrwood Can you share the basics of your pad layout for Logic? I'm trying to brainstorm what would be the most optimal layout...maybe transport controls on the top and then track/mode selection under that to sort of mimic the screen layout...maybe undo on the top right.
Great to know .. Thanks
I ended up up putting the 4 transport controls (exactly as in Logic) on bottom left, with 3 mode controls above (editor, plugin, mixer) along with undo.
On the right half I put select track up and down (the arrow keys) at far right (one on top of the other) and then filled in the last pads with metronome, count-in, forward, reverse and quantize - with one still free.
Donāt think itās optimal, have been thinking about splitting across 2 of the custom pad layouts to better cover navigation.
I also found out there are a few controls that you see when holding command on a keyboard attached to the iPad that arenāt listed in Appleās online guide.
Much appreciated. Looking forward to playing around with this.
Btw, have any of you tried using your Launchkey with Ampify Groovebox? The native support is really quite slick. Shame Apple/Novation haven't done anything similar with Logic yet...I'd give my left nut if Logic had the same Launchkey integration as Ableton, but hey this keystroke trick is a nice workaround for now, and doesn't cost me any body parts
What a great idea.
Can StreamByter convert key commands?
@zzrwood : The Keynes on the 49 or 61 is probably much better
Totally agreeā¦ I just bought the 25 mini for travelā¦
Hereās my mobile studioā¦ š
Nice! I actually don't mind the mini keys, tbh. I have an Arturia Keystep as well and those are better keys in most regards (more realistic action, aftertouch), but the Novation mini keys are faster, take less effort, and are quieter. So they both have pros and cons imo. I'm glad and thankful to have both.
However, if I could have the Arturia keys with the Novation pads & controls, I don't think I could turn that down
Curious if any owners of the MK4 (mini 24 keys, in my case) find the keys to be really clickyā¦. Thinking about exchanging mine.
No I haven't noticed clicky keys on my MK4 37 mini. I find they are quiet and have a softer feel than my Arturia Keystep 37. The Novation keys remind me more of my Yamaha Reface.
Noice!!!!!
The standard Mk4 keys are pretty good. I wanted the mini version for portability, and the standard keyboard does add more depth, but the 25 key standard version I have is a reasonable compromise with portability and playability.
Along with bigger synth-style keys, the pads are a bit bigger, everything is more spaced out, and you get the additional controls.
Saying that if I end up gigging next year Iāll get the mini as a live option.
Good to hear. I tried the MK3 standard keys a couple years ago and ended up returning and getting an SL MKiii instead, but from what I've been reading, it sounds like the MK4 standard keys are a nice upgrade from the MK3 standard keys.
I didn't realize the pads are bigger on the standard vs mini as well.
Only slightly, but when you take into consideration the extra buttons (less shift-diving), proper keys, mod/pitch wheels etc. itās a worthwhile upgrade.
Iāve got the first Launchkey 49 key and the keys arenāt as good as the mk4, and the pads are awful. The mk4 pads are on a completely different level in contrast. Really responsive.
This review swung it for me:
The keybeds on the 49 and 61 mk4 models are new and semi-weighted. Most reviewers seem to rate them pretty well. I donāt believe the keybeds on any other models changed between the mk3 and mk4 versions (Iāve had both in 25 mini versions).
My main complaints with the mini 25 keys are their size and uneven velocity response. I got used to a Yamaha Reface CP which had vastly better mini keys.
@oldsynthguy Right on. Loopop is the best.
@zzrwood Agreed that Reface keys are better. That's what I first learned to play keys on. As for the MK4, I haven't experienced the velocity response issues on my MK4 37 mini, thankfully.
I have probably just been spoiled by my Korg Keystage which has a nice keybed and great velocityā¦ I guess it should as it was a bit priceyā¦ š¬