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SWAM Strings sections iOS (and rooms ir thing)
Omg when
Also do they intend on doing any other sections, brass, wind etc?
I know they have a world instruments thing in the pipeline. Don’t know if there’s been any more word on that
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Hadn't heard word about Sections coming to iOS, and don't see much chance
With no direct line, but an obsession of clicking anything SWAM related (that's why I'm typing this now! The most clickbaity four letters... lol), no word on when Ambiente for iOS releasing yet. Educated guess, it'll be ready when it's ready
I'm bummed it'll require a much beefier iPad than my 10th gen can provide
In the meantime (for Sections alternative) I'd like to recommend Iconica Sketch
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconica-sketch-orchestra-app/id6504404183
Pairs VERY nicely with SWAM for filling out larger ensembles (with SWAM first chairs and soloists 😅)
While I'm not overly versed in orchestral levels of sound design, my learning project of recreating Tank! from memory is sounding very nice to me without much tweaking (I tried Mini Orchestra prior and did NOT like the sounds it produced. Iconica Sketch is what I was looking for)
Though I yearn for iOS Sections
And I hadn't heard about any world music offerings, but I'm absolutely down! Any link to where you read that? I'm curious as hell
I double dipped and fell into GeoShred hard black Friday. SWAM'd myself there, and also auditioned some Naada
Maaaan I love those Naada sounds
(I also really need to get my mitts on a breath controller.... Crap. It really is 'just one more...just one more,' isn't it?)
I’m pretty certain iOS swam sections has been confirmed in here, in fact I remember that it has. Someone emailed them and they confirmed that both it and their room ir thing (ambiente maybe, though I had the impression it was baked in) will be coming to iOS together iirc, I thought they said by the end of 2024 but may have just been very soon at the time.
I had a listen to iconica sketch, thanks for the recommendation but I found it a bit thin and metallic. I thought I was getting mixed up with mini orchestra but listened to YouTube and had that feeling too. Maybe I’ll try it if it goes on sale though. I saw one person feeling the same in comments but interested to hear others opinions.
For orchestral stuff k think the best sounds are to be found in XinematiX which is by far the fullest most realistic set of orchestral sounds for me, I just think the app is a bit of a mess, that was a godsend because I’m really picky and couldn’t stand pretty much anything beforehand.
There is also the spitfire and Berlin etc libraries on staffpad now incredibly cheap. They’re a bit more awkward but for such good sounds you can import your track from a door - screen record it - as video, then play strings parts with midi keyboard alongside it, then export the audio back to your daw. It’s like 6 grands worth of orchestral stuff for a few hundred quid really if that.
Yes! The info about audio modelling future projects came initially from the roadmap they published a few years ago. They fell behind but had always had swam sections as their next project after bringing stuff to iOS. Then bringing that to iOS. Then swam world instruments or ethnic or whatever they called it. Though the dates changed the outline didn’t, I emailed them about a year ago about the ethnic thing as I was looking for a suona - I’m even fussy about that
- and they were positive about it and confirmed it was still coming though further down the line. It was then going to be a handful of world instruments, I have a feeling representing different places. I feel like it’s going to be a bit boring though and covered by naada because they were talking about erhus iirc. That’s not their fault because that’s what you do in a project like this it’s just that it would be far more useful to cover niche instruments, but then probably not what would inspire that app.
Yeah I love naada and that was the app I didn’t know I was waiting for for years, while looking out for the audio modelling one. So good. I have that tec voice controller. I haven’t used it much yet. I didn’t really find it very natural tbh but I haven’t used it enough to say.
Geoshred is amazing, I have that and all the swam apps. I use velocity kb but there’s always some bloody issue setting this stuff up, logic etc, and I prefer geoshred though there are issues with that too. I need to look up how to use geoshred to control stuff as it keeps playing teh default sound alongside what I’m midi controlling. I just haven’t got round to it.
I have for a long time been half in and out of MPE controllers having been through and disliked a lot for one reason or another. A bigger lightpad was what I wanted. Someone mentioned one coming out but I cannot find anything mentioning it and I don’t trust roli as their devices die if you leave them uncharged for a month or two and they don’t care.
The erae touch 2 is about to release. I’m waiting to hear feedback on that as the first was not successful for MPE control. They have dramatically upgraded it based on that though. Otherwise the linnstrument is the way to go. But I do this whole circle every time where I go back and play on geoshred and realise the iPad is more response than any of these devices and the vertical axis as z dimension is actually much more playable for me than I thought.
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Wanted to add that the strings in GarageBand are strangely expressive, the way they have you playing them with swells is lovely.
@Parthand if GeoShred is playing the default sound as well as the instrument you are controlling it sounds like you are loading it an audio slot rather than a midi slot (in AUM terms)
Just looked at the audio modelling site. They’ve reneged on their previous reply to an email where they said they would bring this to iPad. Done for me.
Just thought I’d update everybody that the SWAM String sections and the Ambiente Room Simulator are currently being Beta tested on iOS / iPadOS .
There will also be new versions of the solo instruments (also being Beta tested) that include the Ambiente functionality.
Audio Modelling have given me the Ok to post this so all is 👍
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Thanks for that, the website faq might need updating ha.
When you say new versions of the solo instruments to include ambiente - I’m assuming this will be a free update or similar for those who bought them previously? Sorry i realise you may not know this but it was what sprang to mind reading new versions of them
Woo hoo! Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for this update! Very exciting!
Just an update on this…
Beta testing is still ongoing on String Sections, Ambiente and the new versions of the Solo instruments.
I’ve also checked a few things with Audio Modelling and this is their update…
Regarding beta testing, anyone interested can simply contact us at [email protected] or open a ticket through the customer portal. We will then add them to TestFlight, allowing them to participate in testing SWAM Instruments and Camelot.
Lastly, just like for desktop users, the iOS SWAM Solo Instruments update that includes Ambiente will be a free update
I think @Parthand asked specifically about that last point.
Well, that’s nice of them. Spent quite a pile of money on all of those instruments, speaking for myself.
Oooo thanks so much!! Hoping to contribute! I adore their products
Question: “iOS Solo Instruments update that includes Ambiente” - will solo inst have individual instances of Ambiente? Or is it more of an update so it can be used in Ambiente? (Slightly confused on wording)
Ditto. Doesn’t help to double dip with geoswam 😅
I found this video here for desktop and hope this is included in the iOS versions, too. Also, if it would be only a provision, the "free" part would not make much sense.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hqOJQBCKjHE
@PapaBPoppin , the way it works is that you only need the stand alone version of Ambiente, which is a separate product, if you want to use it with non SWAM instruments. You place a copy of Ambiente on each channel (which is then shared) and then you can position say a Moog, Copperhead and Ravenscroft in the same virtual room.
All of the SWAM instruments have it built in so if you have say a Viola, a Violin Section and a Trumpet they will share the same copy of the built in version of Ambient. You can position each instrument in the ‘room’ using say the Trumpet instance and this will be mirrored in the other instruments copies of Ambiente.
Hope that makes sense !
Perfect sense thank you for the clarification!
Thank you so much for the update, that’s great news. I’ll put my pitchforks and placards back in storage
Ambiente - Room Simulator, new release, on sale!
https://apps.apple.com/my/app/ambiente-room-simulator/id6736830467
And here's the Sections bundle (quick link to all new Sections just released) - Info includes Sale info, but prices aren't reflected yet
https://apps.apple.com/my/app-bundle/swam-string-sections-bundle/id1795413712
Thought some people here might be interested
I don’t know how others feel but ambiente is for me the best reverb I’ve ever used. Absolutely blown away. I thought I was excited for sections but it’s ambiente that’s been the most impressive for me. I feel sections is a bit odd and phasey in vibratos. Ambiente helps with larger spaces.
Not sure how it compares to the klevgrand one but so impressive