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List of possible commands

Hi, where can I find the list of all the available midi commands?

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  • wimwim
    edited January 19

    @Lucal said:
    Hi, where can I find the list of all the available midi commands?

    Please be more specific. The question isn't answerable as asked.

    Are you asking about the MIDI 1.0 specification? About the commands for some app in particular? About Loopy Pro perhaps? Something else? Sorry, but It's impossible to guess.

  • The MIDI 1.0 spec can be found easily.
    I have found this list of common CC interpretations to be valuable: https://anotherproducer.com/online-tools-for-musicians/midi-cc-list/

  • sorry, didn't want to bring confusion and thanks everybody for their reactions.

    I'd like to check which functions can be controlled via midi beside the basic ones.
    As an example I wasn't able to see if Loopy Pro can do things like substitute, insert and can respond to long presses etc.

  • wimwim
    edited January 19

    @Lucal said:
    sorry, didn't want to bring confusion and thanks everybody for their reactions.

    I'd like to check which functions can be controlled via midi beside the basic ones.
    As an example I wasn't able to see if Loopy Pro can do things like substitute, insert and can respond to long presses etc.

    Thanks for the clarification. I'll move this thread to the Loopy Pro category so that it's more clear that you're asking about Loopy Pro specifically.

    There are literally hundreds of things that can be done in Loopy Pro either via midi or with on-screen touches, including long presses, etc. I don't know if there's a comprehensive list of them anywhere. I'm sure @espiegel123 will know.

    btw, there is a fully featured 7 day trial for Loopy Pro. One thing you can do is to simply download it and explore. Be sure you have plenty of time in that 7 day period though as there is a lot to explore. The Manual, Wiki, and many YouTube videos are also available.

    You'll get quick answers to any specific questions you run into here. It's a forum where many other apps are discussed as well, so it's best to make it clear that you're asking about Loopy Pro even though this is the Loopy Pro Forum.

  • @Lucal said:
    Hi, where can I find the list of all the available midi commands?

    See:

    https://loopypro.com/manual/#actions

    and

    https://wiki.loopypro.com/Action_List

  • Thank you, I was looking for a list of the various possible functions you can apply to a recorded loop. And yes, it looks like the best is testing it and see what's inside.
    Sorry if I made a mess here, I'm an old looper coming from the Echoplex Digital Pro and its successors.
    Many thanks!

  • @Lucal said:
    Thank you, I was looking for a list of the various possible functions you can apply to a recorded loop. And yes, it looks like the best is testing it and see what's inside.
    Sorry if I made a mess here, I'm an old looper coming from the Echoplex Digital Pro and its successors.
    Many thanks!

    If you read what the actions do and the relevant parts of the manual , you will be seeing all the functions that you can do.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Lucal said:
    Thank you, I was looking for a list of the various possible functions you can apply to a recorded loop. And yes, it looks like the best is testing it and see what's inside.
    Sorry if I made a mess here, I'm an old looper coming from the Echoplex Digital Pro and its successors.
    Many thanks!

    If you read what the actions do and the relevant parts of the manual , you will be seeing all the functions that you can do.

    I opened the manual at least 5 times and wasn't able to find an aggregated list of the available functions all together. I know it just depends on me, at 56 it's hard to adapt to manuals that are not coming from a hardware concept.
    User interfaces are now depending on contexts and many different menus are located in different areas of the application so, it's just on me.
    Again, sorry for taking space and time.

  • No need to apologize!

    There is so much available in Loopy Pro that it's hard to be concise sometimes. The other difficulty with making feature lists is most of the features are building blocks rather than tidy, easily named functions. Hardware isn't freely customizable like Loopy Pro is. You can build complex functions from infinite ways of combining actions.

    Don't worry, it'll all become second nature to you soon. I'd say, no more than 10 years and you'll know it like the back of your hand. 😉

  • @wim said:
    Don't worry, it'll all become second nature to you soon. I'd say, no more than 10 years and you'll know it like the back of your hand. 😉

    You're quite optimistic!
    Let's see...

  • @Lucal : did you see the links I posted? One is to the section of the manual that describes each of the available actions. The other is a listing of the action names.

    @Lucal said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Lucal said:
    Thank you, I was looking for a list of the various possible functions you can apply to a recorded loop. And yes, it looks like the best is testing it and see what's inside.
    Sorry if I made a mess here, I'm an old looper coming from the Echoplex Digital Pro and its successors.
    Many thanks!

    If you read what the actions do and the relevant parts of the manual , you will be seeing all the functions that you can do.

    I opened the manual at least 5 times and wasn't able to find an aggregated list of the available functions all together. I know it just depends on me, at 56 it's hard to adapt to manuals that are not coming from a hardware concept.
    User interfaces are now depending on contexts and many different menus are located in different areas of the application so, it's just on me.
    Again, sorry for taking space and time.

    Did you follow the links I posted? One is a link to the beginning of the Actions chapter. If you read through it, it includes a description of every action. The other link is to a page that is a list of the available actions.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @Lucal : did you see the links I posted? One is to the section of the manual that describes each of the available actions. The other is a listing of the action names.

    Will do, thank you

  • I think the disconnect here is the difference between listing actions that can be used and combined to do thousands of things, and listing more discrete hard features such as you'd see in a piece of hardware. It's a lot to wrap one's brain around when scanning through the manual. That's not the fault of the manual; it would have to be massive to try to cover all Loopy can do.

  • @wim said:
    I think the disconnect here is the difference between listing actions that can be used and combined to do thousands of things, and listing more discrete hard features such as you'd see in a piece of hardware. It's a lot to wrap one's brain around when scanning through the manual. That's not the fault of the manual; it would have to be massive to try to cover all Loopy can do.

    Yes, it's a different concept for sure. My deepest experience in a looping software is with Mobius, which I've been using since it came out almost 20 years ago as a computer based Echoplex Digital Pro from which it took clear inspiration and reference. For this reason its manual and concepts have been inherited from a hardware device.
    Mobius (which is now resurrecting to version 3.0) allows writing context-related scripts able to act differently at specific conditions.
    I'm checking Loopy Pro to see if I can reproduce my Mobius settings on ios and leave a laptop in favour to an iPad.
    Just want to make sure I'm investing my time in learning a tool which can deliver what I'm looking for. I've learned that's better making sure at the beginning, remember I'm growing old and must make a good use of time :blush:

  • @Lucal said:

    @wim said:
    I think the disconnect here is the difference between listing actions that can be used and combined to do thousands of things, and listing more discrete hard features such as you'd see in a piece of hardware. It's a lot to wrap one's brain around when scanning through the manual. That's not the fault of the manual; it would have to be massive to try to cover all Loopy can do.

    Yes, it's a different concept for sure. My deepest experience in a looping software is with Mobius, which I've been using since it came out almost 20 years ago as a computer based Echoplex Digital Pro from which it took clear inspiration and reference. For this reason its manual and concepts have been inherited from a hardware device.
    Mobius (which is now resurrecting to version 3.0) allows writing context-related scripts able to act differently at specific conditions.
    I'm checking Loopy Pro to see if I can reproduce my Mobius settings on ios and leave a laptop in favour to an iPad.
    Just want to make sure I'm investing my time in learning a tool which can deliver what I'm looking for. I've learned that's better making sure at the beginning, remember I'm growing old and must make a good use of time :blush:

    You may want to visit patchstorage.com and explore some of the loopy pro templates posted there,

  • wimwim
    edited January 20

    @Lucal said:
    I'm checking Loopy Pro to see if I can reproduce my Mobius settings on ios and leave a laptop in favour to an iPad.
    Mobius (which is now resurrecting to version 3.0) allows writing context-related scripts able to act differently at specific conditions.
    Just want to make sure I'm investing my time in learning a tool which can deliver what I'm looking for. I've learned that's better making sure at the beginning, remember I'm growing old and must make a good use of time :blush:

    One big difference you may run into is conditional logic and variables aren't directly supported yet in Loopy Pro. There are ways to mimic that using profiles and stepped dials, but they can sometimes be a bit abstract. MIDI scripting tools such as Mozaic and Streambyter can also help.

    Exploring profiles before and during your trial highly recommended. They sound very close to "... act differently at specific conditions". The approach toward triggering a profile switch is somewhat different than scripting though.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    You may want to visit patchstorage.com and explore some of the loopy pro templates posted there,

    oh yes, this is a great source of excellent examples, thank you!

  • @wim said:
    One big difference you may run into is conditional logic and variables aren't directly supported yet in Loopy Pro. There are ways to mimic that using profiles and stepped dials, but they can sometimes be a bit abstract. MIDI scripting tools such as Mozaic and Streambyter can also help.

    No problem, thank you for clarifying !

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