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Newer Ipad for better latency?

Beginning to run into latency issues. Using an Ipad air 3, 64g (2/3 full).
Yes I know about all the settings.
Wondering if anyone has experienced improved latency with updated Ipad versions.
-thx

Comments

  • Newer usually means better... but what kind of specific latency are you experiencing? Latency between your iPad and a desktop connection? Latency between plugins in a particular DAW? Latency between iPad and a live rig setup? All of the above and more?

  • Instrument/mic input latency. Never had an issue till now.

  • Also noticing apple’s au, new pitch, causes it often ironically.

  • If you mean RTL then my experience is .. nope. I tried that with my RME Babyface Pro FS on iPad 10.2 2021(Bionic A13) and then on iPad Air 2022 (M1). The differences were in tenths of milliseconds. Then I found out that iOS has nothing as efficient as ASIO drivers and getting below 7ms on 64samples/48kHz is impossible even for RME. So I gave up and instead of RME I bought a cheap Focusrite Scarlett, which is only slightly worse in latency.

  • A more powerful iPad will not lower latency.

    It will (or at least should) reduce CPU load at lower buffer settings. So, if you could only go to 256 buffers before getting dropouts before, then you may be able to go to 128 or 64 on a faster iPad.

  • edited February 4

    Generally, latency is mostly down to the software side of things - host / plugin - and connected audio interface, so I wouldn’t expect improvements. I haven’t noticed any when going air3 > air5.
    In fact in my experience with each new version of iOS things seem to get worse.

  • wimwim
    edited February 4

    @hibjshop said:
    Also noticing apple’s au, new pitch, causes it often ironically.

    It's impossible to do pitch correction without adding latency. The plugin can't correct a pitch until it has heard what it needs to correct.

    A faster iPad change that at all.
    At least not until Apple introduces time travel, which they will brand e=mA²

    I don't think even lower buffer settings will help with that plugin.

  • Great info. Thanks yall 👍🏻

  • Compressors, Limiters, Soft Clippers, FFT filters etc. all add latency, and it all piles up :)

  • btw, A faster iPad won't help with latency from that plugin at. I don't think lower buffer settings will help either.

    At least not until Apple introduces time travel, which they will brand e=mA²

  • @filo01 said:
    If you mean RTL then my experience is .. nope. I tried that with my RME Babyface Pro FS on iPad 10.2 2021(Bionic A13) and then on iPad Air 2022 (M1). The differences were in tenths of milliseconds. Then I found out that iOS has nothing as efficient as ASIO drivers and getting below 7ms on 64samples/48kHz is impossible even for RME. So I gave up and instead of RME I bought a cheap Focusrite Scarlett, which is only slightly worse in latency.

    Where did you find that out?

    RTL is exactly the same on my Mac as my iPad. Interface is a Motu 8A…

  • Well, faster iPads will usually allow for using lower buffer settings that usually end up in lower latency.
    That's all I can say, without knowing which DAW you're using at which buffer setting, and what your current latency is and also what you'd consider the maximum acceptable latency. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Samu said:
    Compressors, Limiters, Soft Clippers, FFT filters etc. all add latency, and it all piles up :)

    This is the number one driver of latency for me. For recording a bass or guitar part I disable effects on the channel (and master channel) while recording or monitor direct from the interface. BTW I have an M1 iPad Pro and can run comfortably at 48k, 128 samples. My Zoom U-24 does measurably better than my Focusrite gen 1 scarlett 2i2. End of the day, CPU helps, but there are other levers to pull.

  • edited February 5

    @BroCoast said:

    @filo01 said:
    If you mean RTL then my experience is .. nope. I tried that with my RME Babyface Pro FS on iPad 10.2 2021(Bionic A13) and then on iPad Air 2022 (M1). The differences were in tenths of milliseconds. Then I found out that iOS has nothing as efficient as ASIO drivers and getting below 7ms on 64samples/48kHz is impossible even for RME. So I gave up and instead of RME I bought a cheap Focusrite Scarlett, which is only slightly worse in latency.

    Where did you find that out?

    This is my personal experience from PC and iPad as well. Check this thread, I've posted several RTL measurements there. Latency difference between RME and e.g. Audient Evo8 is negligible but price gap is huge.
    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/58564/comparing-interface-latency/p1

    RTL is exactly the same on my Mac as my iPad. Interface is a Motu 8A…

    I don't have a Mac so let me ask you: Are you sure you measured RTL?. Do not trust the values reported by the DAW or the AU host. It only measures software latency. You have to measure whole audio chain including hardware input and output. That is what RTL represents.

  • Thanks @filo01, you've provided an excellent resource for choosing the right audio interface in terms of RTL :smile:

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