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Where can I see a Loopy Pro “wiring” diagram, internal routing
I’m still a little befuddled about EXACTLY what’s happening with Loopy Pro’s internal routing. I tried to map inputs, monitoring, outputs, colors, buses, effects for myself but I’m not sure I got it right.
For example, is routing to a color in the input—e.g. sending the input to orange, or blue loops—the same as routing outputs or monitoring to a color? Appently not, even though the language is the same.
Or, in an input channel, does the signal flow from bottom to top? Not always, because the bus sends can be any number of places.
A graphic diagram would really help me visualize all the routing options. I think I have it figured out, but the first time I started working with this it was confusing and I had to experiment to figure out the basics.
I looked in the Manual and the Wiki, but didn’t see anything.
Thanks,
Steve
Comments
A comprehensive signal flow diagram that captures all possibilities doesn’t exist.
Signal flow is basically top-down though the destinations are post-fader. The signal passes down through the effects, through the fader then in to the destinations (colors or hardware outputs). Where the sends get the signal depends on what option one has chosen on the knobs. By default, knobs are after the effects but before the fader.
I am not sure I understand your question about monitoring through a color and routing to a color. Monitoring is post-fader. So, when monitoring through a color, the input flows to the destination color and the monitor destination.
Monitoring through a color is for hearing an input through a color’s effect chain without recording the effects. Usually, you use it in a situation where you want to record no effects but want to hear effects that are on a particular color.
Which fader? Despite your careful effort to explain, I’m still not clear on what’s happening with color, monitoring, and outputs. Could you maybe draw a flow diagram of just that? Sorry I’m so dense. I don’t have lots of experience with soundboards and DAWs, so some of these concepts that are old hat to you I have to figure out as I go along.
Pre and post fader refers to a channel’s fader—the big fader on each channel that controls a channel’s volume.
The flow for a mixer channel is
Input ->
pre-fader effects ->
fader (gain module)->
post-fader effects ->
destinations [colors and/or hardware outputs]
Ed, thank you for that flow. When I asked “which fader” I meant to ask: input or output fader? Your chart is for input faders.
The flow is different for Output faders, right? Can I assume that output faders—Main, Output 1, 2, etc.—are ALWAYS at the very end of the chain?
But colors and buses (A,B,C, etc.) are not the same as the “final” Outs because they must be routed to the Outputs to be heard. Right? They are intermediate outputs.
Back to inputs: When a main input is routed to a color and monitoring is off and no other destination is selected, that means the stream is available for recording but otherwise goes nowhere and is not heard. Right? But when a recorded loop is played back it ALWAYS outs to a color bus, right? No exceptions?
Part of my confusion originally was due to colors being destinations (loops) and output buses.
Thank you for your patience. I’m finally getting this. To some extent, my question are academic because I did get the routing to work the way I want it. But it’s taking the time to really undestand this now so I can remember the structure for the inevitable troubleshooting when things go wrong. Also, to help other newbies who have similar questions.
Steve
@ThinAirX : the flow I detailed applies to all mixer channels. There isn’t an input/output distinction.
The destination setting determines where a mixer channel’s output goes.
Yes, you have to route audio to an output to hear it but that doesn’t make the different mixer channels fundamentally different. The flow is the same…as described in my flow description.
For each mixer channel, where the input comes from depends on what the channel is.
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The master channel works differently. It applies to all hardware outputs.
— re colors
All clips have a color. When a clip plays, its output goes to its color bus. A color bus is like any mixer channel. Its input is the output of the clips of that color. A color bus also receives audio from hardware inputs set to monitor through the color.
@ThinAirX : I’ve added a signal flow diagram to the channel strip section of the manual