Conditional Midi behavior (ignore release if doing hold command)

SparkleBear

Howdy y'all,

Im running to a midi implementation issue here. I want to send an UNDO and REDO on the same button (also another that does PEEL and REPLACE etc)... Tap would be Undo and Hold would be redo. I want loopy to ignore the off command that a release gives once it does a HOLD action.

I've set the CC HOLD as REDO and CC OFF (release) as UNDO.

So in midi land loopy will see an ON command for X milliseconds and recognize this as a HOLD. At this point if I release it will also register CC OFF too and will UNDO my REDO... so its not working. But this is not just for undo / redo. I just want loopy to ignore the tap (on/off) functions when performing a HOLD. I want to have a Fade selected on tap and fade next on hold etc...

I think that makes sense enough to get the point across... Any advice?

Thanks

espiegel123

@SparkleBear said:
Howdy y'all,

Im running to a midi implementation issue here. I want to send an UNDO and REDO on the same button (also another that does PEEL and REPLACE etc)... Tap would be Undo and Hold would be redo. I want loopy to ignore the off command that a release gives once it does a HOLD action.

I've set the CC HOLD as REDO and CC OFF (release) as UNDO.

So in midi land loopy will see an ON command for X milliseconds and recognize this as a HOLD. At this point if I release it will also register CC OFF too and will UNDO my REDO... so its not working. But this is not just for undo / redo. I just want loopy to ignore the tap (on/off) functions when performing a HOLD. I want to have a Fade selected on tap and fade next on hold etc...

I think that makes sense enough to get the point across... Any advice?

Thanks

If you use ON instead of OFF for the tap, you can do what you want by turning on Defer other action for the hold. There might be a tricky way to use a dial or profile switching to accomplish it.

espiegel123

@SparkleBear : There is a way to do it with profile switching if using on for single tap isn't feasible for you.

You will need two profiles dedicated to this.

Let's call one "normal" and the other "clearhold"

In normal, have your off and hold binding. Defer other action isn't needed. In the hold binding have both the action to perform AND a select profile action that switches to "clearhold".
Clearhold has one binding: off. It switches back to normal.

SparkleBear

Oh this is promising. Is it possible to have a widget do different behavior depending on which control profile is set? Or must i use midi for this? Or send midi from a widget and have the control profile decide what that does??

Thanks

espiegel123

@SparkleBear said:
Oh this is promising. Is it possible to have a widget do different behavior depending on which control profile is set? Or must i use midi for this? Or send midi from a widget and have the control profile decide what that does??

Thanks

Control profiles are midi only. You can have your widget send midi and have the actions handled strictly by the profile.

To get midi from widgets to the midi control system load streambyter or ShowMIDI into your project and target them from the send midi message . In midi control, you can use AU’s as midi sources for bindings.