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Keystage --> AUM --> Loopy Pro
Hi guys
I'm a freestyler so I need a lot of different sounds/istruments ready to be choosen to don't bore the listeners creating variations. Loopy pro is not the best for having a "list" of tons of plugins so I tought to use a Keystage session as "sounds bank" and Loopy Pro Just as a loop station. The point is that I can't figure out how to link them 'coz AUM doesn't see Keystage as an Audio Unit, AUM doesn't see it at all. So how can I do this routing?
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Hi. Does Keystage see AUM as an IAA (Inter-App Audio) app? You might be able to hook up that way.
As far as I understand, Keystage is neither an AU nor does it send output via IAA. What problems do you have with Loopy Pro hosting the plugins you are hosting in Keystage?
Sorry if this doesn't make sense. I don't have KeyStage.
Would it make sense to host Loopy Pro in KeyStage?
It's all about the "view". I'm a freestyler so I have to choose quickly the next instrument/sound to play so I need to see the entire list of plugins in few seconds. For example, Keystage let me put all the pianos in a row, all the basses in another row and so on, it's a very fast view....and you don't need to upload the same plugin more times. Also, I don't want to stress Loopy Pro uploading tons of plugins.
You could create widgets for quick access to your plugins. There would likely be more efficient CPU use with one host than if it were possible to do Keystage to AUM to Loopy Pro. There is one system wide audio thread.
With the AU instruments hosted in Loopy any muted instruments won't be using DSP. Does Keystage do that?
What are you using Loopy Pro for in your setup?
Depending on the FX routing in KeyStage I would think you could host Loopy in KeyStage. But without knowing how you would like to use Loopy, that’s just a wild guest.
You can’t get KeyStage audio into Loopy Pro standalone but you probably can get sounds into Loopy if you use it as a plugin.
my concern is have a quick setting. It's not just a matter of recall up a plugin with a button. I mean I can't open the plugin, scroll through the patch list and find the sound I want, too much time. I need to have each single sound ready to be played. I thought about using the "stepped dial" widget but I haven't yet found a way to hook it to the individual presets of a plugin.
I use Loopy Pro as loop station like the Boss RC 505 (loop-clips + various FX). In my older setup I use to have a computer with a Logic session with a plugin/sound per track (soooo many tracks!), then recording the "audio" into the Boss Rc. Now I'm looking a way to avoid an external device using plugin installed in the iPad.
I'm gonna try to put Loopy Pro as plugin into Keystage but I'm not sure Keystage can reconize Loopy Pro as AU.
@VirtuS : you can set up buttons or dials or radio buttons to recall presets for instant access. You can also set up buttons and bindings to change presets and set up parameters and presets of one or more devices at once.
Some AUv3 expose their presets directly to the host and some don’t. For those that don’t, you can add the presets to Loopy Pro so that you can recall them with Loopy’s CB preset actions.
For more information about presets: https://wiki.loopypro.com/AUv3_Presets
Once the Loopy Pro update with midi comes out (soon) you should be able to send it's midi data to Keystage. Midi keyboard --> Loopy Pro --> Keystage --> audio out.
Keystone can host AUv3 effects, so it should be able to host Loopy Pro. You could put it on the master if you'll only be capturing the final Keystone output. Or, you could put it on a send, if KeyStage has them, giving you the option to record individual instruments more flexibly.
I get where you're coming from not wanting to upend your setup to move it all to Loopy Pro. I'm pretty sure that you can have what you want by hosting Loopy as an FX in KeyStage. Just remember, it does need to be loaded as an FX, not an instrument in order to receive audio from KeyStage. You can use it as an instrument too if that's appropriate, but it won't be able to record.
Keystage is kind of a self contained midi super controller isn’t it though?
I mean if anything wouldn’t you just want to integrate your hardware directly to LP?
Just a thought
I think this is about instrument plugins more than it is about hardware.
This seems like more of a case where something works just like it should but trying to add Loopy to it. With considerable tinkering Loopy could be made to be an efficient replacement, but that would involve upending a setup that works well as-is.
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First of all, I want to thank everybody for the support, you're so kind 🙏🙏
I did It 🥳👏. I've created buttons and dials to recall instrument preset. Now the problem is, since I recall someting it's still there even when I press the next/other button-instrument, so the istruments play together. I can't find a way to "switch" between buttons as you can do grouping clips.
The perfect set for me could be: a tons of button-recall-instruments, everytime I press an other button, the previous goes disactivated or if it's pressed again (or two times) the button goes off....so I can press the next button-instrument.>
@wim said:
Done, no effect could be added on the master so I've created a bus with Loopy Pro as insert-fx and It works, I mean Loopy Pro catches the sound of plugins.... but, unfortunally, all the sounds togheter. It works only in the mixer-view and catches the sound of all the instrument-tracks.
If I try to make It in the song-properties Page It doesn't work at all 'coz I can't keep opened Loopy-Pro-windows and select the instrument I want to play.
I am sure we can get it sussed out with a bit more information.
Please post screenshots of your expanded mixer and your project pages and pick one thing that doesn’t work as you want.
Describe what happens now and (in detail) what you want to happen for that one thing. I am sure that after we work out one or two issues , you’ll see what needs to be done for others.
As you can see in the mixer-page, I use several midi plugins. The canva-page with only square buttons should be my instruments-page where I choose and pick up the specific sound I need in That moment. I can assingn a particular preset to each button. So I engage BASS 1-button to’ record a clip, fine. Here it comes the problem: if I press KEY 1-button to record a new clip with a keyboard/piano, BASS-1 is still engaged so the two sound sound layered together. So I can’t figure out a way to turn off a button-Preset after be engaged.
@VirtuS : what do you mean “bass-1 is still engaged”
Can you post screenshots of the actions you have in those buttons?
It sounds like maybe you need to add an action to mute inputs using I don’t want to record.
Btw, I notice that you have a feedback loop on the color orange: orange set as an output destination for orange. Is that intentional?