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Hi,
I've attached two mp3 files.
One is from an advertisement. It's using some synth violin..... very NICE sound. A touch LoFi maybe. The first file has the words (LoFi Ad)
The second file is the recording of my actual violin.... (file has the words MyViolin)
HELP - what plugins can I use to "morph" or change the sound of the my violin to be more like the synth (the first recording)??
Thanks In Advanced
AJ
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Sounds to me like you mainly just need a touch of delay, any band-pass filter and reverb. Also some compression to smooth out the dynamics of your playing just a little.
Except for the delay I got real close IMO using just Loopy Pro's stock plugins plus the first delay app I tried. In order ...
It was important to volume balance the two samples before jumping in. Yours is louder and that affects how things sound a lot. I ended up cutting your sample by about 12db.
To speed up the process, I imported both loops, one to a color, with the FX chain on your sample. I grouped the loops and set them to play one at a time so that all I had to do was double-tap to switch between them. I trimmed the loops to just the first run of the phrase on import for convenience.
[edit] A tiny bit of chorus before the delay might not be a bad idea either.
Nothing to add other than to say that’s a great reply and explanation.
Ok actually.
I love this kind of stuff … reminds me of the “classic album” tv series which has lots of interesting and cool insights into sound design/studio techniques.
You don’t often see this kind of discussion about how things are made and the artistic process. I guess most people aren’t that interested in the process and just enjoy the finished work. Anyway, look it up if you’re curious.
I’d read a whole series of “how to get that sound by@wim”
“Does this guy know how to party or what ?!”
-Wayne Campbell, Wayne’s world
Ok I have one… in case @wim needs another sound design test : ) I hope it’s ok to post it here.
Can anyone get a sound close to the main riff on this track?
( I think it might be sampled bass guitar but it could equally be a synth processed to sound like one?? It seems simple enough but I could never quite nail the tone…)
The Chemical Brothers - Life Is Sweet
100 forum points for the best answer
That would be a mistake. I'm no sound designer. Not even close. This one just happened to be easy to pick out when I listened to it. I would fail on most challenges. @Vmusic also tee'd it up really well by posting his own sound to work from. Making sounds from scratch based on hearing it on a video is a whole other level.
(Also, you may have noticed, I didn't upload any proof that I wasn't just talking out my a**. 😛)
I think out of consideration for @Vmusic, and also to get more visibility - it might be best to start a separate thread.
@wim So, honestly.... if you offered a class on Udemy or some online training platform, I'd pay for it.
I fairly often use a delay with similar settings that you provided here to (do what I call) "thicken" out the sound.
Thank you SO MUCH!!! I have a new preset for my faux strings sound.
I’m glad it helped. Having the two carefully prepared samples to A/B compare made it pretty easy.
The Band Pass is the key to the “lo-fi” character you mentioned. Once that was dialed in, figuring out what other parts were missing was easy.
I think it's either sped up just a bit (2-3 semitones shift), or formant shifting was used (though the effect seems more wide-band than that, so doubtful). Beyond that and the bandpass / highpass filtering, I don't think there's anything else. If there was a delay, it would be extremely noticeable as the trills end around 0:14.
The strong ambience / reverb doesn't seem perfectly constant, but IMHO this is how the original recording had it in, and wasn't digitally manipulated. There's also a momentary speed instability around 0:03, which presumably comes from the original recording or the analog to digital transfer.
EDIT: okay, it's not easy to tell since it's Lo-Fi... there may be some shenanigans going on with the reverb as well
@wim - seriously, you could make some extra cha$ching teaching.
QUESTION: For LoFi sounds..... does the degradation happen before the reverb? (I'm not talking about my samples and sounds....but just in general). Some of the LoFi sounds I've heard, you almost get like a "glitchy" sound. It seems that it should happen before the reverb. Is there a way to randomize the "glitch", maybe with a slow LFO or something?
QUESTION: Air - sometimes I hear what is almost like an "airy" sound in strings. I have this DAW plugin
https://slatedigital.com/fresh-air/ In LP /iOS how could I emulate that?
Thank you again!!
That really depends. You have to listen to see if the whole mix sounds degraded (in a good way), or if the mix itself is clean but just an individual instrument sounds degraded, or both.
One really common technique is to apply tape emulation to a sound. Recording to tape imparted saturation, hiss, sometimes hi-pass/low-pass filtering and wow and flutter. There are some great tape emulators out there you might want to experiment with. It's not something I know much about. But I think that may help with the glitchiness you're referring to. Others would be much more help than me on tape FX.
Some reverbs have a modulation setting for their reverberation, making the tone or pitch of the reverb drift. That can introduce a wobbly lo-fi vibe without affecting the main tone.
Sorry, I don't know what "airy" would sound like.
I hear a short delay with very low feedback adding a bit of a doubling effect. It's subtle. I didn't try it over the part with the trills, but I don't think what I had applied would be apparent there. I found I needed it on the intro section I worked with though or the source sound sounded too flat.
Yeh. I didn't get into that detail. It may be that the source recording had an influence, or tape emulation was added over the whole mix or on the reverb.
@Vmusic - I doubt miRack is a thing you'd want to get into, but ignoring the vast complexity of modular, it's possible to make use of an outstanding reverb unit in it with just one module and four patch cables. Valley Plateau is a terrific reverb that has modulation of the reverb tail. I know there are plenty of others with modulation and filtering options, but Plateau is the one I'm most familiar with. I have to restrain myself from throwing it on everything.