Is it possible to record automations on loops?

VikeWave

Can you record FX automations on a loop?

For example:
1. I record a 8sec dry guitar loop
2. I increase a reverb knob to 100% for 2 sec and then decrease it.

How can I record this action on the loop?

espiegel123

@VikeWave said:
Can you record FX automations on a loop?

For example:
1. I record a 8sec dry guitar loop
2. I increase a reverb knob to 100% for 2 sec and then decrease it.

How can I record this action on the loop?

The current Loopy version doesn’t have automation. Widgets and can be set up to perform ramped actions such as the one you describe.

The upcoming update has midi recording. While you can’t record true automation in it, you can set up a midi binding to control something and create a fader to midi control the reverb amount and record/playback the midi.

For the time being you could use a midi recording AU to do the same thing.

VikeWave

Thanks for the reply Espiegel,

Could you please clarify how to create a widged with ramped action to record the effect variation?

MIDI is cool, but what if the effect is to be recorded on an audio Loop?

I think it a very useful and creative tool to be able to record parameter changes into our loops.

What do you reckon?

espiegel123

@VikeWave said:
Thanks for the reply Espiegel,

Could you please clarify how to create a widged with ramped action to record the effect variation?

MIDI is cool, but what if the effect is to be recorded on an audio Loop?

I think it a very useful and creative tool to be able to record parameter changes into our loops.

What do you reckon?

All actions that adjust parameters have a ramp setting that determines how long it takes the setting to reach tge value.

wim

Sorry to insert myself unasked but hopefully to help clarify regarding midi recording...

What @espiegel123 was referring to is setting up a control that sends midi, and sending the midi to control a parameter such as a gain setting or something. Then you can record that midi output with something like Midi Tape Recorder, and play it back to recreate the movement of the control.

I think it a very useful and creative tool to be able to record parameter changes into our loops.

Think of it as an indirect way to accomplish what you want. The "automation" isn't recorded to an audio loop, but it's recorded to something that can play back that automation in a similar way.

It's more complicated now than it will be when midi looping will be introduced. When that comes, you can record that midi stream to a midi loop without a 3rd party app. But the concept is still the same. Two loops. One for the audio, and one to play back the automation.

Some day there will be full automation recording, but for the foreseeable future, midi is a necessary intermediary.

(This is a separate approach from ramped controls. Hopefully I've not derailed that discussion.)

espiegel123

@wim : one of the things I was talking about was using widgets with adjust parameter actions (optionally with a ramp time). One can use those widgets triggered by dummy clips as a means of simple sequencer room automation without using cc’s.

wim

@espiegel123 said:
@wim : one of the things I was talking about was using widgets with adjust parameter actions (optionally with a ramp time). One can use those widgets triggered by dummy clips as a means of simple sequencer room automation without using cc’s.

yes, I know.
I was only (trying) to clear up the midi aspect.