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Atom2 or Xequence2: Fight!!!
Which one is the better AU sequencer that can import multichannel midi files for editing?
Workflow is paramount. I want to import/open a midi file. If there’s multiple channels, each one needs its own editable track (ie don’t collapse the midi file).
I then need to be able to router playback of each track to their own midi ch for AUM to route.
They both look good on paper, and if it’s tossup that’s fine. But from an ease of workflow perspective, is one a clear winner?
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Do you need to edit non-note midi?
Like velocity or cc?
I can live without it if the other features make it compelling enough.
Btw, for actual detailed editing I use AudioEvolution… I just need a multitrack sequencer inside AUM for mostly just playback into my session…
Xequence is not AUv3, so Atom2 wins on that basis alone
If you plan on recording Animoog Z midi output, you will want to use MIDI Tape Recordef or Xequence 2. Atom 2 F doesn’t handle Animoog’s midi correctly.
worth to mention you can load NS2 as IAA into AUM (sometimes you need manually start NS2 first and only then add it as IAA in AUM) and then you can send up to 16 midi channels from NS2 into AUM
(in this case his good idea to sctivate ableton link to have them both synced)
Whoa! Yer right! I In reading the description I saw AUM mentioned and just went from there...
Before he weighs in, this dev is pretty up front about Xequence and has provided a lot of support on and off this forum. I wouldn’t call him sneaky at all.
Nooo, I don’t think any sneakiness was involved. He just means that it fills a gap in AUM (no piano roll). It can be used with AUM. Workflow never clicked for me though, and I would prefer an AUv3 piano roll like Atom2, just for workflow purposes. I just want to have everything inside my AUM sessions
Definitely not sneaky. And probably writing some witty but barbed rant as we speak 😂
It was a joke.. Jessh.. I removed it...
Atom 2 ever since Xequence got removed from euro stores.
Hi,
Have you looked at helium?
If its just these 2 I would go xequnce. Atom good for short clips. Xequence.. Better workflow IMHO. The only thing,for me,that's a negative is no tempo or time SIG changes in a song.
No I had not considered Helium... Looks like it might work. Do you use it?
I do. It’s my favorite auv3 piano-roll.
Thanks for the input.
So... It has no issue opening a multi-channel/part midi file, assigning midi channels to parts, and routing to tracks in AUM?
Helium had some issues in the beginning but are now far, very far, ahead of LK and Atom2.
I had no problems with multilane imports so far.
Xequence is not an AU as noted, Atom hasn't been updated in years and is likely abandoned.
Helium, LK are better alternatives. Drambo also supports importing midi, maybe not multi-lane/channel.
I might be a bit ignorant here, but why exactly does it matter that xequence isn’t auv3? I’ve been using it with all apps (mirack, AUM, Drambo) and all my synth auv3s with no hassle at all. It’s an absolute powerhouse midi sequencer.
I’m just sick of swapping apps… Convenience mainly.
Helium looks like it will work. I’ll give it a go next week.
I like to open an AUM session and everything is contained inside the session. If I am using non AUv3 apps it adds another layer of hassle and sometimes entails writing some notes regarding what I was using in the session that isn't saved inside it.
Regarding Helium vs Atom2, would anyone like to comment on why they think one is better than the other, apart from the fact that Atom2 dev is not active (does that really mean it's abandoned? I'm not sure, and I hope not, but maybe it is)?
I tend to prefer Atom's layer and scene management. It's easier for me to build up compositions with Midi switchable patterns.
Neither is really ideal, though.
I might have wanted to make Xequence 2 part of the work, but it's non AU status made that a non-starter for me. In fact, I should just delete it.
If an app has not been touched in 4 years, that counts as abandoned in my mind. No maintenance or compatibility updates either.
I've emailed the dev to ask, let's see whether I get a reply
Good luck!
I remember the “hype thread” that was going on, leading up to, and shortly after the release of Atom 2. The developer @blueveek was very active, and building on the functionality of Atom 1, which was already amazing, Atom 2 brought tons more features and enhancements, and IMO, was damn near perfect!
But people wanted more. They wanted more bars, or unlimited bars. Almost demanding it. And they wanted to be able to record and edit MPE MIDI data, etc etc.
He ended up getting pummeled by so many feature requests and demands, where basically if he had catered to every request, the app would have been completely opposite of what his original vision was. And I think that was what scared him off.
It was kind of sad to witness honestly.
Tell you what though, if he ever came back and updated it, or maybe released an Atom 3? It’d definitely be an insta-buy from me!
Yeah that's true. He worked insanely hard on it and probably burnt himself out in the end to some extent