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Experimental Delay Project “The Pocket Mixer”
I finally made something after a long dry spell. It’s the result of some MIDI experimentation with variable channel delays.
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Nice to hear you creating again. I’m not familiar with Pocket Knife. I did a lookup and didn’t find much. Can you describe it a bit.
It’s a midi delay that can be applied on a per channel basis. All channels get a fixed delay so you can then pull one or more channels ahead of the click or delay after. I think of it as a “Pocket Mixer”.
It’s in beta and still needs work.
@wim offered a brilliant thought… make a version that works on a per note basis to have more control of drum tracks. Push the snare around in the groove. I tried this last night and it can really change a drum track beyond recognition and play parts you could never notate.
It’s a simple idea that I hope some like @cem_olcay experiments with and figures a way to generate a new clock that follows this delayed clock which ideal would adjustable.
It’s the opposite of quantizng and makes parts that sound less machine and more human.
That's a really good idea that's got me thinking. Rather than buy another app, I'll just copy an existing drum pattern to 3 or more tracks, then delete specific notes in the editor and apply different delays to each track. Other Desert Cities might be a good choice. The default is really good. For that matter, this might also work for melodic MIDI data, too. I was running out of ideas for new things. This could be fun.
That should give you a sense of the idea. Start with every delay set to a default so some channels can be ahear of this artificial “one”.
If the chosen delay has AU Parameters we can make a control panel with “Surface Builder” to master/mix the “pocket”.
This is a good way to prototype the idea for a developer to borrow and implement in Swift or Objective C.
Don’t tell anyone about this experiment.., our secret. And thanks for the feedback.
Interesting approach, nice and gentle, happily have had more ☹️
A long dry spell may be something to be savoured at our advancing ages 😂
Your discussion @McD and @Paulieworld on channel delays reminded me of this analysis by Ethan Hein https://ethanhein.com/wp/2022/dilla-time-in-chameleon/
The idea of ‘polyswing’ - different elements of the drum kit swung by varying amounts and some dragging too. Microtimings that may contribute to being in the ‘pocket’. A fixed delay might be too rigid.
Thanks. I could not remember DJ Dilla’s name. My delay concept isn’t intended to generate “dilla” style rhythm but by
tweak the delays you can just dial in that type of “off the grid” patterns too. Probably worth investigating but I’m still
in the early stages of prototyping an idea.
I’m going to follow @Paulieworld and split one of the @LuisMartinez drum patterns across multiple channels in Cubasis
and add a delay on each channel and fiddle with the delays. Anyone could do this too and report back on the results.
I might try it with some sparse, minimal patterns in DrumJam using some Indian instruments. I actually had a dream about this a few nights ago. The song was called Vimana.