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wim

Totally off-topic, but I found Michael Crichton's novel Next a fascinating dive into the non-obvious ways even pre-AI medical advancement can (and in some cases is) going wrong when greed takes the forefront.

Especially in light of the last sentence of the post above this, which neatly summarizes the whole problem with a lot of things.

timfromtheborder

@NeuM said:
Political intervention and interference in markets is the norm and not the exception, so we have few examples of free markets in action except on the micro-scale generally. Fear of efficient markets is how politicians gain power ("elect me and I'll give you something for nothing").

And regarding Karl Marx... His economic philosophy supported his own layabout lifestyle. Marxism has been a failure everywhere it has been used. It is an anti-individual, anti-human philosophy.

A classic argument: free markets are ideal, but have never been tried, while Marxism is everywhere and has never worked. Personally I would argue that free markets have repeatedly failed and Marxism has never been implemented. Oh well, AI probably makes free markets and Marxism both irrelevant.

NeuM

@timfromtheborder said:

@NeuM said:
Political intervention and interference in markets is the norm and not the exception, so we have few examples of free markets in action except on the micro-scale generally. Fear of efficient markets is how politicians gain power ("elect me and I'll give you something for nothing").

And regarding Karl Marx... His economic philosophy supported his own layabout lifestyle. Marxism has been a failure everywhere it has been used. It is an anti-individual, anti-human philosophy.

A classic argument: free markets are ideal, but have never been tried, while Marxism is everywhere and has never worked. Personally I would argue that free markets have repeatedly failed and Marxism has never been implemented. Oh well, AI probably makes free markets and Marxism both irrelevant.

You’ve misquoted me, which renders the basis for your counter-argument null and void.

Dav

At the last mobile world congress meeting, speakers announced that very soon most businesses will have human and non-human employees. Already I’ve gotten announcements sometimes when I call in for tech support or pay a bill that the company may be using AI to interact with its customers.

NeuM

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@Dav said:
At the last mobile world congress meeting, speakers announced that very soon most businesses will have human and non-human employees. Already I’ve gotten announcements sometimes when I call in for tech support or pay a bill that the company may be using AI to interact with its customers.

I suspect some companies will start to use an A.I. CEO to run their company in the US, especially for larger companies which are maintaining market share and not in growth or startup mode. An A.I. CEO could make perfect sense for a lot of companies. And it would be a lot easier to fire if it messes up.

MrStochastic

I am sorry @wim , that I brought up the M word. It’s just that he nails it pretty well as far as making it clear that in order to increase profit companies will shed employees whenever possible without concern for them or how they will live.

I have also worked in creative jobs and I strongly believe that human creativity is an essential positive component of human society and it’s evolution. Without it we collectively become less human.
It’s no wonder that this has been a consistent theme (warning) in the arts across the board for the last few hundred years.

So I’m torn by AI because I see those pitfalls but I also can’t help being intrigued by it at the same time. As @DSZA wrote, some of the tools can be amazingly helpful. Seeing the capabilities of those video tools, I want to try them too. The guy in that video makes it sound like a warning but it seems almost like he’s promoting it.

Of course that means there will be a vast sludge of bogus content, any spark of creativity will be hard to pick out if it all. We’ll all become more numb. “drowning in treacle is still drowning.”

AudioGus

NeuM

@AudioGus said:

I like the Dor Brothers. They spare no one.

AudioGus

@NeuM said:

@AudioGus said:

I like the Dor Brothers. They spare no one.

Hehe yah, even themselves.

UrbanNinja

@Michael_R_Grant said [to Neum]:
That simply isn’t true. Factually it’s complete bullshit. Why did you post it?! How do you believe it?!?! Mad.

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@NeuM said:
Which part of the statement do you find untrue? When you reply, provide a reason you disagree, not a an ad hominem attack or insult.

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"But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
“How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
“You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”