Freeze Overdub/layer?

espiegel123

Quite a few reverb plugins have freeze feature. Someone asked recently whether there is anything on iOS that lets you layer/overdub freezes … apparently there is a strymon pedal that lets you add freezes layers.

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@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:
Quite a few reverb plugins have freeze feature. Someone asked recently whether there is anything on iOS that lets you layer/overdub freezes … apparently there is a strymon pedal that lets you add freezes layers.

Which pedal from Strymon? Just curious so I can look up the specs and such

Off the top of my head I can’t think of any, other than using multiple instances of an AUV3 to do so manually. But that can be quite CPU intensive.

Cascade has a freeze function, SploshBox does as well. I’m sure there’s more but those are the first two I can think of.

The pedal in question is Strymon BigSky. I think the mode is maybe called Infinite Sustain.

For this use-case, the person is really looking for a single plugin that can essentially overdub freeze layers.

Lots of reverbs can do a static freeze but none that I have seen allow you to add to a freeze.

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@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:
Quite a few reverb plugins have freeze feature. Someone asked recently whether there is anything on iOS that lets you layer/overdub freezes … apparently there is a strymon pedal that lets you add freezes layers.

Which pedal from Strymon? Just curious so I can look up the specs and such

Off the top of my head I can’t think of any, other than using multiple instances of an AUV3 to do so manually. But that can be quite CPU intensive.

Cascade has a freeze function, SploshBox does as well. I’m sure there’s more but those are the first two I can think of.

The pedal in question is Strymon BigSky. I think the mode is maybe called Infinite Sustain.

For this use-case, the person is really looking for a single plugin that can essentially overdub freeze layers.

Lots of reverbs can do a static freeze but none that I have seen allow you to add to a freeze.

Have them check out Cascade It has similar verbiage and I’m sure there’s a way to have a similar effect utilizing it.

Check the bottom info panel

‘ Infinite | Sets feedback to 100% for infinite reverb while still letting new signals in’

Do you have it? Someone said elsewhere that the freeze can be played over but not added to. Perhaps they were mistaken.

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@offbrands said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:
Quite a few reverb plugins have freeze feature. Someone asked recently whether there is anything on iOS that lets you layer/overdub freezes … apparently there is a strymon pedal that lets you add freezes layers.

Which pedal from Strymon? Just curious so I can look up the specs and such

Off the top of my head I can’t think of any, other than using multiple instances of an AUV3 to do so manually. But that can be quite CPU intensive.

Cascade has a freeze function, SploshBox does as well. I’m sure there’s more but those are the first two I can think of.

The pedal in question is Strymon BigSky. I think the mode is maybe called Infinite Sustain.

For this use-case, the person is really looking for a single plugin that can essentially overdub freeze layers.

Lots of reverbs can do a static freeze but none that I have seen allow you to add to a freeze.

Have them check out Cascade It has similar verbiage and I’m sure there’s a way to have a similar effect utilizing it.

Check the bottom info panel

‘ Infinite | Sets feedback to 100% for infinite reverb while still letting new signals in’

Do you have it? Someone said elsewhere that the freeze can be played over but not added to. Perhaps they were mistaken.

I do, I’ve never dug deep into it but this gave me an excuse to try it out.

Not entirely sure the effect they’re going for musically, but utilizing the feedback and diffusion stages in Cascade I layered 3 parts onto one another and initialized freeze then shut off the transport to highlight that there’s an infinite delay feedback loop playing.

Probably not what they want, but pretty cool nonetheless, shit demo but was just doing this quick

Okay I’m fairly certain ‘infinite’ is essentially a freeze that accepts new signals where as freeze doesn’t.

From the manual

Also their video on YouTube shows a lot of functionality that’s capable with a single instance, but even just a couple. Not sure what their approach entails though.

Gav has a video too as does Jakob and SFM

Once you have that freeze, can you layer another freeze on top of it, and then again, etc

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@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:
Quite a few reverb plugins have freeze feature. Someone asked recently whether there is anything on iOS that lets you layer/overdub freezes … apparently there is a strymon pedal that lets you add freezes layers.

Which pedal from Strymon? Just curious so I can look up the specs and such

Off the top of my head I can’t think of any, other than using multiple instances of an AUV3 to do so manually. But that can be quite CPU intensive.

Cascade has a freeze function, SploshBox does as well. I’m sure there’s more but those are the first two I can think of.

The pedal in question is Strymon BigSky. I think the mode is maybe called Infinite Sustain.

For this use-case, the person is really looking for a single plugin that can essentially overdub freeze layers.

Lots of reverbs can do a static freeze but none that I have seen allow you to add to a freeze.

Have them check out Cascade It has similar verbiage and I’m sure there’s a way to have a similar effect utilizing it.

Check the bottom info panel

‘ Infinite | Sets feedback to 100% for infinite reverb while still letting new signals in’

Do you have it? Someone said elsewhere that the freeze can be played over but not added to. Perhaps they were mistaken.

I do, I’ve never dug deep into it but this gave me an excuse to try it out.

Not entirely sure the effect they’re going for musically, but utilizing the feedback and diffusion stages in Cascade I layered 3 parts onto one another and initialized freeze then shut off the transport to highlight that there’s an infinite delay feedback loop playing.

Probably not what they want, but pretty cool nonetheless, shit demo but was just doing this quick

Okay I’m fairly certain ‘infinite’ is essentially a freeze that accepts new signals where as freeze doesn’t.

From the manual

Also their video on YouTube shows a lot of functionality that’s capable with a single instance, but even just a couple. Not sure what their approach entails though.

Gav has a video too as does Jakob and SFM

Once you have that freeze, can you layer another freeze on top of it, and then again, etc

That’s what I’m saying the Infinite does. It’s essentially the same thing, just a different name.

Any chance you could do a short demo of infinite layering one note at a time to build a frozen 3 note chord than play something over that?

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espiegel123

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:

@offbrands said:

@espiegel123 said:
Quite a few reverb plugins have freeze feature. Someone asked recently whether there is anything on iOS that lets you layer/overdub freezes … apparently there is a strymon pedal that lets you add freezes layers.

Which pedal from Strymon? Just curious so I can look up the specs and such

Off the top of my head I can’t think of any, other than using multiple instances of an AUV3 to do so manually. But that can be quite CPU intensive.

Cascade has a freeze function, SploshBox does as well. I’m sure there’s more but those are the first two I can think of.

The pedal in question is Strymon BigSky. I think the mode is maybe called Infinite Sustain.

For this use-case, the person is really looking for a single plugin that can essentially overdub freeze layers.

Lots of reverbs can do a static freeze but none that I have seen allow you to add to a freeze.

Have them check out Cascade It has similar verbiage and I’m sure there’s a way to have a similar effect utilizing it.

Check the bottom info panel

‘ Infinite | Sets feedback to 100% for infinite reverb while still letting new signals in’

Do you have it? Someone said elsewhere that the freeze can be played over but not added to. Perhaps they were mistaken.

I do, I’ve never dug deep into it but this gave me an excuse to try it out.

Not entirely sure the effect they’re going for musically, but utilizing the feedback and diffusion stages in Cascade I layered 3 parts onto one another and initialized freeze then shut off the transport to highlight that there’s an infinite delay feedback loop playing.

Probably not what they want, but pretty cool nonetheless, shit demo but was just doing this quick

Okay I’m fairly certain ‘infinite’ is essentially a freeze that accepts new signals where as freeze doesn’t.

From the manual

Also their video on YouTube shows a lot of functionality that’s capable with a single instance, but even just a couple. Not sure what their approach entails though.

Gav has a video too as does Jakob and SFM

Once you have that freeze, can you layer another freeze on top of it, and then again, etc

That’s what I’m saying the Infinite does. It’s essentially the same thing, just a different name.

Any chance you could do a short demo of infinite layering one note at a time to build a frozen 3 note chord than play something over that?

Sure. For clarity, play each note once and then the chord those notes make together?
Or by build do you mean sustain each note until I’m holding down the chord?

And by play something over that what would you prefer? A different synth or instrument

What the person who asked about this wants to do is freeze a note he plays on violin then add another frozen note and so on until he has built up a chord over which he can solo over

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espiegel123

@offbrands : thanks for the examples!

Rob_Jackson_Music

Nice demo @offbrands and your descirption is spot on, i.e. it basically doesn't apply decay to whatever is in the delay line buffers when freeze is on.

For a nice ambient effect, I'd usually run a delay or another reverb after SploshBox when using freeze mode as when freeze is on, you only get the dry signal.

cellicello

I am the one who is looking to layer multiple notes on my cello and freeze them.
Using the tail freeze function and then playing new notes to freeze again isn’t ideal, because the previously recorded frozen notes fade as I add new ones.
I found a solution with Cascade:
Record the chords with the infinite loop (♾️), then “print” them with the freeze function (❄️). Then stop Infinite.
So I can play on top, add notes if I want, or make a new Pad later on.😎
Here a quick demo.
The 2nd channel of the reveb when using the Freeze function is not set properly but it can give you an idea.

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