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Using iPad Fx as an insert for Mac DAW
Would like to access all the cool fx/instruments I now have on my iPad from Cubase on my Mac Studio.
I have a UA Apollo for the Mac and Arturia minifuse for the iPad.
Would like to be sitting at my DAW and somehow access mid and audio in and out.
It seems my minifuse midi ports cannot be seen by my iPad.
Best way?
Is it possible with minimal latency?
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@slinky I’m in the process of doing this EXACT same thing!! The problem I came across is you’d need a multi-USB interface. I just got a full UAD setup (Apollo Quad and UAD-2 Octo..running UAD Luna) and needed these two key pieces to get this experiment going.
My iconnectivity lands tomorrow!! Hope this goes well and I’ll let you know if it pans out
Cool. Good luck. Very curious.
Doing instruments would be fairly easy, have an interface for your iPad with the outputs going to the inputs of the interface on your computer.
However, using the effects going through two interfaces would probably be too much latency for anything other than echo/reverb.
I use either novonotes Siderack, a DAW plugin and iOS app combo that hosts iOS AUV3 apps over a direct USB connection, or a Lewitt connect 6 audio interface, which allows bi-directional audio (2 channel) between desktop and iOS.
The Joyo momix pro also does bi-directional audio (as well as lots of other micro mixer stuff).
Siderack is not flawless for me in terms of either functionality or reliability, but it is the best software option I’ve used since the demise of Studiomux.
Midi passthrough is not possible via the Lewitt or Joyo audio interfaces, a Bluetooth controller to the IOS device is the best option for that.
You can set up some midi parameter control from desktop with Siderack and route a keyboard to the chosen iOS app via your DAW. Studiomux had brilliant midi routing where everything connected to your desktop would show up for routing in AUM or Audiobus, but alas now broken and abandoned.
https://novo-notes.com/en/side-rack
Siderack - currently on sale $68 down from $98 with a free trial.
Latency is minimal, i.e. I can’t hear any when playing an iOS synth, harder to judge on an effect round trip, but not obviously bad.*
*quick test with live guitar via iOS amp sim, adjusting the ‘buffer multiplier’ in the Siderack plugin settings down to ‘1’ and with Ableton buffer at 256 samples the plugin reports 5.3 ms latency and all sounding ok. Won’t go into any more detail right here… but a general thumbs up for Siderack.
Watched the video, absolutely brilliant.
When I export from my DAW, everything going thru the siderack will be rendered with the DAW tracks?
When you say not reliable can you be more specific?
Installed the trial of siderack.
Says to check out the quick start in the documentation. Don't see that.
Sometimes it seems to crash when configuring stuff, when adding additional AUv3s and extra plugin instances in the DAW, requiring a reload of the plugin - could be user error though - generally seems stable once playing instruments. I think it’s probably best used in a limited fashion, as either an instrument or an effect chain, but obviously it’s always tempting to keep adding more stuff.
I record the iPad output as audio clips (in Ableton) if I want to keep something, mainly as I don’t always have the iPad connected. I’d be nervous of relying on the plugin to remember and restore the setup, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t.
Thx for the recommend, looks exactly was I was looking for.
When I’ve done it in the past I’ve found it easiest with two audio interface and treat the iOS device as if it’s a hardware fx unit. I use the external plugin in Logic on the Mac which pings the iOS device to automatically compensate for the latency.
For insert fx it’s often quicker and easier to bounce a track inside logic on the ipad then load that track back to the Mac. You can bounce the audio track on the Mac and do it just as easily in AUM on the iPad too.
Although to be honest most of the time I don’t need to do this as I try to make sure any auv3s I buy for iPad work on the Mac too.
I have a little Zoom H1n which works a treat as an audio interface for my iPhone and also obviously gives me a mic for sampling both to the SD card and directly into the iPhone/Mac etc.
Using the iPad or iPhone as an external fx unit is quite cool as you can tweak things as you bounce as it’s always going to be a realtime bounce.
Can't justify the cost of the app at the moment.