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New Pianoteq synth instrument "Syngular" available now for desktop, soon on iOS
New Pianoteq synth instrument "Syngular" available now for desktop, soon (maybe a couple of days, they say) for iOS. My walkthrough is here:
Note: Syngular will be 20% off at launch, from December 10th to January 1st. Also note, you'll need to update to Pianoteq 9.1 to use it. At the time of posting, the desktop update should be available but you might have to wait a day or two for the iPad/iPhone version.
Like the pianos etc, Syngular is also physically modeled but it's closer to a synth in sound with attack, decay, release etc, and it can be used to create synth pads, leads and more.
Really important thing to understand: like other Pianoteq instruments, you can only tweak the physical modeling parameters if you have the Standard license or higher. People who rely on presets might be happy enough using this in the Stage license version, but if your intention is to tweak and do sound design, you will almost certainly want to be on Standard or Pro.
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Thanks for this! It’s already out in an update for iPad/ iPhone here in the US.
Last couple purchases from Pianoteq has been through this link - hope it helps you out!
So many Pianoteq packs I’m interested in and now one more! Between the Pianoteq 9 upgrade with this new instrument plus the new Naada IV pack in GeoShred give physical modeling fans a lot to chew on.
I gotta get this one next paycheck!
Thanks for that, there was definitely a decent wee chunk of sales around Black Friday, I really do appreciate you and anyone else using these!
This is cool. The physical modeling gives it an interesting retro vibe.
Can get some really beautiful sounds for sure, pads and keys especially, but even basses and leads too, it's just a pity that ppl need Standard or Pro license to properly tweak things!
Argh this one's gonna bug me. Lots of Tassman v1 vibes and not in a good way (all the power and promise of physical modelling, just sounds like dodgy FM), lots of 'obvious piano synth being forced into uncomfortable territory', then a sound so unique and gorgeous it's almost worth the price of admission. Plenty of demo time for sure.
So I have to upgrade from Pianoteq 8 to Pianoteq 9 (currently $29 USD), purchase Syngular ($39 USD), and if I want to tweak sound parameters I have to upgrade from stage to standard or pro ($130 or $260)? To get a synth on my iPad?
Yeah, I think this will mainly appeal to people who already have Pianoteq Standard or Pro license, or who want those anyway. I don't think it would make someone buy straight into the ecosystem just for this.
I'd be curious how Pianoteq would do if they scrapped the Stage and Standard licenses entirely. Just give everyone access to the physical modeling parameters even if they just buy one pack. They could maybe still put the Pro features behind a separate paywall, but those are very niche anyway. It would mean a lot more people would be using their instruments and spreading the word, and I feel like it might be a more profitable direction for them.
Of course I've no data to back that up, and they seem to be doing OK under the current pricing model, so maybe aren't motivated to try to change it. It would also likely annoy people who did pay for their licenses, so I guess at this point they (and we) are probably stuck with this pricing structure.
The leads sound good and are fun with the mod wheel. Haven't tried aftertouch yet as I'm not near my other keyboard, but I assume that works too?
As a Stage owner, I do wish there were more presets to fiddle around with.
Is there an option to add “glide” to a preset? Or a preset that already is configured to glide?
If you upgrade from stage to standard, then you should be able to upgrade from v8 to v9 at no cost since your last license bought dates from less than 12 months ago.
I have had the real pleasure of discovering this 😊
Price is way too high for a physical modeling synth lacking MPE. I like the sounds and might consider it were it editable and MPE-capable.
Is it possible to send CC other than mod wheel to modulate various parameters? If so, is that only if you pay the tweaking upgrade?
What does "physical modeling" mean in this context? Is this just a different way of saying virtual analog?
Virtual analogue is a term mainly used to talk about the kind of modeling used to emulate analogue synths, so that digital synths have the same character, some non-linear behaviour etc, so they don't sound sterile. Physical modeling is more about trying to emulate aspects of real instruments, their strings, the body of the instrument etc.
Syngular is still physical modeling as it uses the same Pianoteq engine as the pianos etc. The only real difference is that it offers some different ways to control the engine (attack, decay, release, pluck brightness etc) that are not adjustable in the UI of the other instruments, like the pianos.
Ultimately, I don't think it matters much to the player anyway what type of synthesis it uses, in this case. The main question to ask yourself would be whether you like the kinds of sounds it makes and whether you find them worth the money.
Thanks for the explanation. I love the Pianoteq acoustic and electric pianos. I think I will pass on their synth for now.
You can definitely use cc to mod all those parameters like I'm doing here:
https://youtube.com/shorts/3fs1SqkAemY
I guess this is only possible if you have Standard or Pro. Who knows though, maybe the parameters are still exposed for modulation, even if you have Stage, the lowest tier license, just like the hidden UI controls were still exposed in the Audio Modeling SWAM instruments. I've no way of checking that, as I don't have Stage, but it's a good question and maybe someone here who is on Stage license and who owns Syngular can answer it.
Some interesting comments here:
https://gearspace.com/board/new-product-alert/1458759-modartt-launches-syngular-pianoteq-instrument-pack.html
And here, including a few good tips on how to adjust attack, decay, release etc in the existing Pianoteq instruments to make them more synthlike @jamietopol https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=12840
I saw some suspicion here that the presets for Syngular use parameters which are not exposed in the interface. This is not correct, or at least not totally correct. I actually checked this with Pianoteq as I had the same doubt. They told me that all the presets made for this use exposed controls, not hidden ones. That said, some of the factory presets to use controls that are only exposed in the Pro version, not Standard. Yes, these different versions create so much confusion I think...
It sounded to me like some of the leads have a glidey quality but I'm not sure I remember seeing where that would be dialed in in the UI