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The Sickness In The Soil

“If the crops fail, Summerisle, next year your people will kill you…” - Sergeant Howie

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  • Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

  • @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

  • Really amazing work! I prefer the high synth be untouched. I think the point of it was to be jarring, no? :)

    These days, I do prefer to master my mixes a bit louder and with even dynamics. That's simply subjective to me though. I hope to get back into the Ambient groove for Jamuary. Then again, I'm learning how to make music for videogames, so maybe I'll give Jamuary 2026 a miss.

  • @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

  • @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

  • @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

  • @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

    It’s likely that you haven’t heard every piece of music ever produced, but there are certainly professional engineers who deliberately ignore rules, and while most might try to ‘fix’ what you’re hearing, there are definitely a significant number who would nod approval at this.

    The point is, a mix isn’t ’wrong’ because it’s not the way you would do it, in the same way that avant garde or musique concrète creations are somehow not music. We all have different approaches, and it would be better to recognize those differences rather than try to homogenize all musical endeavors.

  • @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

    It’s likely that you haven’t heard every piece of music ever produced, but there are certainly professional engineers who deliberately ignore rules, and while most might try to ‘fix’ what you’re hearing, there are definitely a significant number who would nod approval at this.

    The point is, a mix isn’t ’wrong’ because it’s not the way you would do it, in the same way that avant garde or musique concrète creations are somehow not music. We all have different approaches, and it would be better to recognize those differences rather than try to homogenize all musical endeavors.

    I'm not trying to homogenize music. But when I hear something and my ears make me go "ouch" and I have to throw off the headphones because what I'm hearing is physically hurting me, THAT'S a problem. And I think it would be a problem for most people unless they're into pain. I'm not.

  • @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

    It’s likely that you haven’t heard every piece of music ever produced, but there are certainly professional engineers who deliberately ignore rules, and while most might try to ‘fix’ what you’re hearing, there are definitely a significant number who would nod approval at this.

    The point is, a mix isn’t ’wrong’ because it’s not the way you would do it, in the same way that avant garde or musique concrète creations are somehow not music. We all have different approaches, and it would be better to recognize those differences rather than try to homogenize all musical endeavors.

    I agree with what you said Michael. No need to homogenize things. :) I like that everyone has their own unique sonic fingerprint.

  • @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

    It’s likely that you haven’t heard every piece of music ever produced, but there are certainly professional engineers who deliberately ignore rules, and while most might try to ‘fix’ what you’re hearing, there are definitely a significant number who would nod approval at this.

    The point is, a mix isn’t ’wrong’ because it’s not the way you would do it, in the same way that avant garde or musique concrète creations are somehow not music. We all have different approaches, and it would be better to recognize those differences rather than try to homogenize all musical endeavors.

    I'm not trying to homogenize music. But when I hear something and my ears make me go "ouch" and I have to throw off the headphones because what I'm hearing is physically hurting me, THAT'S a problem. And I think it would be a problem for most people unless they're into pain. I'm not.

    Maybe don’t have the volume so loud then? Doesn’t make me say “ouch” when I listen to it, let alone make me throw audio equipment across the room.

  • @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

    It’s likely that you haven’t heard every piece of music ever produced, but there are certainly professional engineers who deliberately ignore rules, and while most might try to ‘fix’ what you’re hearing, there are definitely a significant number who would nod approval at this.

    The point is, a mix isn’t ’wrong’ because it’s not the way you would do it, in the same way that avant garde or musique concrète creations are somehow not music. We all have different approaches, and it would be better to recognize those differences rather than try to homogenize all musical endeavors.

    I'm not trying to homogenize music. But when I hear something and my ears make me go "ouch" and I have to throw off the headphones because what I'm hearing is physically hurting me, THAT'S a problem. And I think it would be a problem for most people unless they're into pain. I'm not.

    I must apologize in advance, Steven, but I fail to see (or, in this case, hear) what you mean. If you're blasting the music way too loud, yeah you may get an unexpected nasty shock, no? Try to listen to the music at a lower volume.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Maybe it does have a ring of "get off my lawn" to it. I won't deny that I'm old. I'm proud I've lived this long.

    I just wonder what a professional mastering engineer would think of that mix and if he would think the same thing that the high synth sticks out a little too much.

    Let me put it this way. I've been listening to all kinds of music since 1964 and I have yet to hear a professionally made recording with a single instrument being that ear piercing and sticking out that much.

    Take that for whatever it's worth to you. My guess is, probably not much.

    It’s likely that you haven’t heard every piece of music ever produced, but there are certainly professional engineers who deliberately ignore rules, and while most might try to ‘fix’ what you’re hearing, there are definitely a significant number who would nod approval at this.

    The point is, a mix isn’t ’wrong’ because it’s not the way you would do it, in the same way that avant garde or musique concrète creations are somehow not music. We all have different approaches, and it would be better to recognize those differences rather than try to homogenize all musical endeavors.

    I'm not trying to homogenize music. But when I hear something and my ears make me go "ouch" and I have to throw off the headphones because what I'm hearing is physically hurting me, THAT'S a problem. And I think it would be a problem for most people unless they're into pain. I'm not.

    I must apologize in advance, Steven, but I fail to see (or, in this case, hear) what you mean. If you're blasting the music way too loud, yeah you may get an unexpected nasty shock, no? Try to listen to the music at a lower volume.

    Well, I adjust my volume to LUFS level. I don't have it blasting. I've been listening to music and mixing on these headphones at this level for 11 years. I can count the number of times on one hand where I physically had to remove my headphones because the music was hurting my ears. Now that isn't to say that my ears aren't maybe a little sensitive. It's possible. But I'm 99.9% certain that I can pull up any music video on Youtube or wav file on Soundcloud and have a perfectly pleasant listening experience.

    Anyway, this isn't even worth arguing about. I expressed my opinion, which I am entitled to do (at least I think I am) and that's it. Likewise, everyone else is also entitled to their opinion. That's what makes the free world such a great place. Freedom of speech.

  • @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

  • @Paulieworld said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:

    @michael_m said:

    @wagtunes said:
    Well, that was different. This track should probably come with a warning for headphone users. That one high synth is really loud and a bit jarring. You might want to work on this mix just a bit to even out some of the levels.

    Definitely don’t do this. Music should have all the dynamics and unexpected twists and turns that come out of the mix that feels right. Otherwise it’s just pop music.

    After seeing you wrote Sergeant Howie it evokes images of dark nights with bad weather and pagan rituals for sure. Evil crows and other birds of bad omen watch over the scene while a poor harvest is dragged from the ground.

    Except music is not supposed to hurt your ears when you listen to it. At least in my generation.

    There aren’t any rules for music, and it’s not really ‘supposed’ to do one thing or another.

    Sorry, but that last sentence really has a ring of “Get off my lawn!” To it. 😂

    Awesome! 😄

  • Not been to Summerisle but have been to the Summer Isles, beautiful place, not in the least bit threatening…
    Levels were fine for me but then again Irena does tend to split opinions 🤔
    I’m sure Stravinsky had people complaining at the Rights of Spring premier but it’s mainstream stuff for us now.

  • @GeoTony said:
    Not been to Summerisle but have been to the Summer Isles, beautiful place, not in the least bit threatening…
    Levels were fine for me but then again Irena does tend to split opinions 🤔
    I’m sure Stravinsky had people complaining at the Rights of Spring premier but it’s mainstream stuff for us now.

    I think the premier of Rite of Spring turned into a near-riot. Not just for Stravinsky’s music, but also for Nijinsky’s choreography.

    Thankfully we live in more enlightened times!

  • That’s what happens when you put men in tights 😊

  • I loved it! Dug the mood from the first wilting sounds.... and the field recordings... the dragging shovel or whatever it was. Haunted, decaying, and creepy. Definitely occupied a realm of sound I am interested in!

    As for the dynamics.... I'm a fan and I didn't find anything too shrill for me (but then again I listen to "noise" music and that can be incredibly piercing and abrasive). To be honest I'm really tired of overly compressed non-dynamic sounds. I recently attended two post-punk shows and it was horrific how crushed everything was.... the gentlest strum of a guitar equaled the hardest playing on the same instrument in the same song. Thankfully the artist that I was there to see preserves the dynamics on their recordings... just not live. In contrast the noise/power electronics/dark ambient festival a week and a half earlier suffered very little from this... but it is far from "pop" sensibilities or consumption.

  • Listened to it again today. I had the movie Wicker Man in mind (for obvious reasons) when I listened to it first time, but this time I listed without that in mind.

    Earthy and ancient, something from beyond known history comes to mind. Something explored by many horror movies is here somewhere. Would love to see a really good horror director put something visual to this.

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