Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.
What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.
Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.
Download on the App StoreLoopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.
Comments
I watched a bit of this dude making a vst plugin, interesting! https://www.youtube.com/@tachesteaches/videos
New functions
https://www.apple.com/logic-pro/
Thanks for sharing, it's certainly interesting. I left Adobe not to return last year and this seem like a fair replacement, the price is what I pay for Reason+ alone, after I got a 50% off offering, which I always wait for. I will definitely try it out. Seems one can't avoid subscriptions, it is what it is.
Edit: I should add that I don't have any of the apps included and that makes it more attractive I guess, getting so much at once.
Yes, it's not exactly the same as Adobe's offerings, but it doesn't necessarily need to be.
The reason they are offering these things is to make money. Every business has to do something to gain customers and retain customers to grow. If these are not the right offerings, they'll try something else.
“Synth Player joins the existing AI Session Player lineup, offering electronic music performances with various chordal and synth bass parts. Developed by Apple’s sound design team, Synth Player can work with Logic Pro’s built-in synthesizers, third-party Audio Units plugins, or external hardware synthesizers.”
If Chick Corea or Lyle Mays were on this design team, I might consider it. But so far their AI stuff is too Artificial and not enough Intelligent for my ears.
As the old saying goes, A.I. right now is the worst version that will ever exist and it will only continue to get better.
You mean I can pay money to have Logic Pro suck even more fun out of creating music by doing more of it for me. I'm in. 👍🏼
I resisted using Logic Pro for as long as I possibly could, but I actually like it quite a bit now.
Seems odd to include the office suite apps in this considering they have been free for so long, and that they don't have a great market share compared to MS Office.
Just a value add for the whole rental package, I suppose.
Good thing I'm slowly making my move to Cubasis. This will accelerate it.
I guess the subscription model for Logic Pro For iPad must have been reasonably successful then. Looks like the same kind of setup that Microsoft has going with Office. You can buy a fully paid for version, but it’s not going to have all the bells and whistles in the long term. It’s nice that we live in a world that has viable alternatives.
https://www.macrumors.com/2026/01/13/apple-creator-studio-exclusive-app-features/
‚There are some exceptions, as Apple says Logic Pro and MainStage will have all the same features whether they are subscription or one-time-purchase versions.‘
Given the concept of model collapse “it ain’t necessarily so”. If AI generated content gets into the training data worse results beckon.
Apparently it's really 'bye bye' to Intel Macs as well when it comes to Logic...
https://www.production-expert.com/production-expert-1/apple-announce-logic-pro-12-pushes-deeper-into-ai-and-appears-to-leaves-intel-macs-behind
Thankfully I've almost completely migrated to using Reaper for most of my audio-editing duties...
...with Renoise being the main 'creative hub'.
256GB base-storage is way too little these days so I can happily wait until 512GB or even 1TB becomes the new base-storage before considering getting a new Mac...
These systems are in competition with each other and the breakthroughs we're seeing on a weekly, sometimes daily basis means some models will get better faster than others. But then even the imperfect models improve because there is a lot of cross-pollination happening at this stage of development. Just review how quickly stunningly good sounding voices, music and generative video have improved. It has been something like a year that I first started experimenting with these things and look at where they are now. According to pro musicians and producers, they're almost ALL using generative music services like Suno.ai now as idea generators or for their final product in the commercial music space. And generative images and video have supplanted all kinds of slow and costly processes with things which can be created in minutes or hours instead of days or weeks... or even months, in an increasing number of cases. It's real and it's now.
If I was into video editing, I’d probably give this a go on a month-to-month basis, even though I already have Logic on desktop. I’m not, so it’s a pass from me. For those that are, and use Logic too, it’s a good deal.
But in the long term, subscriptions suck ass, and you end up paying more for the same stuff.
Thin end of the wedge. Gotta pay for those pricey data centres somehow I guess!
Logic has been an outlier on desktop. I have been using Logic since day 1 and upgraded many times, the last time was in 2014. Every update since then has been free.
However if you use, say, Ableton Live you'd spend more than the subscription cost on keeping it upgraded if you updated every version. Obviously if you pay for a perpetual (hahah as if anything lasts forever) license you could keep using it for years on moth-balled equipment,
I actually have Logic 7 running on an old iMac which I have at my office as a dedicated printer server for a large formate Epson which runs on firewire. Far easier than trying to make it work with current computers... I sometimes need to open Logic 7 to convert old Logic 4 files to be able to open them in the latest version of Logic on the Mac! "need" is a strong word. I don't "need" any old files from years ago but it's nice to be able to open them if I want.
With a subscription you could share it with up to 5 family members and you can pause the sub when you're not using the app. Although I'd personally always prefer a one time purchase, and hope they stick with them for as long as possible, Logic is the one app I'd subscribe to if I had to.
I feel like I've had my money's worth out of that last Logic purchase in 2014 though! If I do have to subscribe in the future I'm not going to cut my nose off to spite my face. I like Logic enough that I'd subscribe if I had to, but don't tell Apple that.
At work the software I use to pretty much run my business has recently switched to a subscription only model and the cost of that is many times what I was paying for updates. There's also the risk that if I update I can't then go back if anything happens to the developer and I'm stuck. It would actually be cheaper for me to buy a Mac mini and mothball it on Sequoia than to pay 2 years subs so that's what I'm going to do. That will buy me time. If I have to subscribe in the future then so be it. In the meantime I'm sticking with the very last perpetual license.
As with everything I try not to be binary about issues. There are always shades of grey and I see myself as somewhat a centrist. I don't like subs but never say never. Sometimes they're better value for me than a perpetual license, sometimes they're not. I will make a decision on a product by product basis. Having said that so far perpetual is winning most of those battles!
TLDR. If, say, the only way to get Logic on the Mac was to subscribe, then I'd subscribe. If there was a way to only sub to logic and not the rest of the creator studio I'd probably do that.
I am more of a Live user, and recently the updates have been more frequent and costly, but one of the things I like about Live is you can keep multiple versions on your machine. So my Mac Mini has 10, 11 and 12 versions on it, and I can easily switch between them. Even my old V9 still works absolutely fine. Really handy for opening older files, and if a new update breaks something (like the current one!).
Oh definitely, I've had it since it was released and wouldn't object to paying for an upgrade.
Good plan. I still use my Intel MBP for work, so if the new Creator sub messes up Pages etc., I'll still be able to use it as before on that one. I also keep all my copies of Affinity V1 and 2 installed in case they start mucking about with the 'free' version.
I also want to avoid Mac 26, so when they start requiring that one for Logic, Pages etc., I'll carry on using the older versions.
Since I don't rely on Logic, I'd do the same as I do with the iOS version - subscribe for a couple of months when required.
Saying all that though a lot of this depends on the value for money aspect - if I didn't have Logic already and was looking to buy the video stuff, I'd probably consider the new deal - at least on a monthly basis. My concern is this is just the start - testing the waters to see how far they can push customers to squeeze more cash from us, compared to one-off purchase revenue. What next - a subscription to use Mac OS?
I'm honestly pretty torn at the moment regarding Logic...
My iPad will likely handle LogicPro for iPad 3.0 just fine but my MacMini will be stuck with the current Logic version and most likely there will be some highly intentional changes to the project format breaking the possibility to transfer projects between devices...
...how all this will affect the existing LogicPro for iPad subscription is not know at the moment?!
That's my main issue with Logic - this constant push to have the latest iOS/Mac OS version for updates. Live 12 still works on macOS 11 - Big Sur!
No info on that one at the moment, but it would put an end to my usage if I have to pay thirteen quid just to use the iOS version.
We'll see on the 28th, I'm in no rush to even consider the sub as the 'Creator Studio Apps' won't even run on my current Intel Mac...
For me it’s absolutely straightforward.
No to subscription for apps. Regardless of conditions, amount of apps and price.
Full stop.
Though AI is amazing for what it is and is having an impact on the workflows of many professions and hobbies, to be so certain that it’s just going keep growing exponentially until it’s AGI is the biggest leap of faith since I tried to believe my hair wasn't falling out in my twenties.
I was hit with some line years ago from a young coworker about how AI is “the worst it will ever be”. In my mind I'm like, "Oh is that right, steve jobs?" Later I found out this is the slogan for techoptimists (people who think a computer is gonna do their laundry by 2027).
The thing is that this "worst it’ll ever be" line is doing a lot of heavy lifting. In fact, so much so that it should be on steroids. I could just as easily say, "for all you know this is the best it’s gonna get for the next fifty years".
There are actual researchers saying we might be hitting a plateau with the current paradigms. Personally, I think we could end up with another "AI Winter" when the hype and overpromising don't pan out.
And apropos of nothing: I've found that my coworker, while smart to the point of brilliancy, also shows ignorance of actual software engineering best practices so we end up with "work slop" all over our codebase. He’s designing databases that’ll break if more than three people log in at once. Sometimes the generated code is so byzantine that other engineers need a map and a priest to figure out what it’s doing.
.double posted.
But I might as well add that while I don't necessarily hate the idea of making AI assisted music (I do use riffler and other generative apps like Riffer, so the difference to me comes down to how you use them in your workflow), I do agree that it's a lot more satisfying to do most of the work myself.
I guess the question is which part of the work is fun for who. I personally don't enjoy doing all the mixing unassisted, so I do use AI tools like Neutron and Ozone, or non-AI tools like Grand Finale. It's not much of a leap for me to imagine someone maybe not wanting to lay down a drum track themselves (and I do use X-Drummer and UJAM at times, and I do have books with drum grooves in music notation that sometimes I use as written or as a base-- which is probably as much "cheating" as using AI).
Well I think being able to dip in and out of Final Cut Pro at £12.99 a month sounds like a bargain not to mention the other stuff in the bundle (shame there’s no discount for already owning logic though)
Cubase 15 for Mac or PC costs £481.
An upgrade to 15 from 14 is £83. Major versions come out about once a year.
Reason 13 for Mac or PC costs £499. Upgrades are £149. And come out a little less than once a year.
A subscription costs £19.99 per month.
Adobe Creative Cloud costs £65 per month.
£12.99 gets you FCP, Pixelmator and Logic Pro plus some other stuff on both iPad and Mac for up to five family members. Or £29 a year for educators and students.
I don’t like subs. At all.
But that’s not bad value when you think about what you’re getting.
You obviously get the maximum benefit if you want FCP and Logic and use both Macs and iPads and have multiple family members that would otherwise want to buy those apps.
Hopefully you’ll still be able to just get Logic for iPad too without all the other stuff. We’ll find out soon.
Are there ways to purchase older versions of software like Cubase for older machines?