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Cubasis 3.8.3 Available Now!

LFSLFS
edited February 23 in General App Discussion

Hi all,

Please note that Cubasis 3.8.3 for iOS and Android is available now.

Download Cubasis on the App Store
Get Cubasis on Google Play

This update again adds many user‑requested fixes, focusing on general stability and performance improvements across audio, MIDI, tempo, and editing, and also includes the long‑requested Android mouse fix provided by Qt.

If you enjoy using Cubasis, please rate the app on the App Store and Google Play.

Thanks you for your continued support and great feedback.

Enjoy being creative,

Lars

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  • New in Cubasis 3.8.3

    Improvements

    • Android: Added support for 16 KB page sizes. (CBT-4248)
    • Android: Updated audio engine to Oboe 1.10.0 for improved stability and device compatibility. (CBT-4275)
    • Framework update to Qt 6.10.2 which fixes mouse input on Android. (CBT-4503)

    Stability & Performance

    • Improved playhead smoothness at higher device latency. (CBT-2330, CBT-4496, CBT-4507)
    • Fixed a rare crash in notification handling. (CBT-4481)
    • Android: Fixed a crash when quitting the app. (CBT-4455)
    • iOS: Fixed an intermittent crash when unloading AU plug-ins. (CBT-4500)
    • Cubasis LE Trial for Android: Fixed a crash when loading a project. (CBT-4455)
    • Images in the Shop now load reliably (CBT-4464, CBT-4502)

    Editing & Workflow

    • Android: Restored mouse input functionality. (CBT-4444)
    • Apple Pencil: Fixed jitter when moving notes and event handles. (CBT-4488)
    • Fixed punch-in recording when the playhead was beyond the left locator. (CBT-4494)
    • Fixed audio glue producing unexpected results. (CBT-4411)
    • Event copy handle no longer loses the selection while dragging. (CBT-4457)
    • Restored visibility of the event copy ghost rectangle. (CBT-4492)
    • iPadOS: Double-tap on Rewind no longer resizes the window. (CBT-4508)
    • iOS: Fixed drag & drop breaking arranger scrolling. (CBT-4478)
    • Fixed Fullscreen button staying on after resizing effect or instrument views. (CBT-4472)

    Audio, Mixdown & Effects

    • Mixdown of manually time-stretched audio events now works as expected. (CBT-4489)
    • Fixed crackling at the beginning of time-stretched audio events. (CBT-4498)
    • Fixed tempo track playing the wrong part of manually time-stretched audio events. (CBT-4506)
    • Fixed Amp Rack / Bass Amp stomp effects occasionally not toggling. (CBT-4490)
    • Fixed Amp Rack / Bass Amp noise after latency or sample rate changes. (CBT-4393)
    • Fixed Amp Rack Flanger creating feedback noise. (CBT-4462)
    • Fixed Amp Rack / Bass Amp changing preset sound on duplicated tracks. (CBT-4394)
    • MiniSampler now properly displays the first edited waveform. (CBT-4443)
    • Etude and Verve: Selecting effect or texture presets now updates parameters correctly. (CBT-4412)
    • DAWproject: EQ bypass state is now correctly exported/imported. (CBT-4158)
    • MIDI & File I/O
    • Micrologue: Presets located in subfolders now load correctly. (CBT-4493)
    • MIDI import no longer creates two undo steps. (CBT-4501)
    • MIDI export now writes program numbers for all tracks with built-in instruments. (CBT-4505)
    • Importing a MIDI file with a signature track now works as expected. (CBT-4477)

    Tempo & Display

    • Tempo +/- buttons now resume playback as expected. (CBT-4461)
    • Manually editing a tempo point now adjusts the tempo track’s vertical zoom correctly. (CBT-4509)
    • Fixed tempo track drawing into the track list after MIDI import. (CBT-4475)
    • Android: Tempo track now displays a large number of points reliably. (CBT-4476)
  • Great work thanks for the continuous support @LFS and Cubasis team

  • Thanks for the update, @LFS is there a way to use a bluetooth keyboard and play the instruments in Cubasas, like you can do on desktop.

  • @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!

  • @Pxlhg said:
    @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!

    He said it's supposed to be like that. Makes it like a real switch lol

  • wimwim
    edited February 23

    @JuniorPops said:
    Thanks for the update, @LFS is there a way to use a bluetooth keyboard and play the instruments in Cubasas, like you can do on desktop.

    You mean a Bluetooth typing keyboard, right?

  • edited February 23

    @JuniorPops said:
    Thanks for the update, @LFS is there a way to use a bluetooth keyboard and play the instruments in Cubasas, like you can do on desktop.

    I have been using a CME Xkey Air 25 via Bluetooth for all DAWs and instruments for many years. It works flawlessly and with virtually no latency.

  • edited February 23

    @Iskander said:

    @JuniorPops said:
    Thanks for the update, @LFS is there a way to use a bluetooth keyboard and play the instruments in Cubasas, like you can do on desktop.

    I have been using a CME Xkey Air 25 via Bluetooth for all DAWs and instruments for many years. It works flawlessly and with virtually no latency.

    He means ‘computer keyboard’, not ‘MIDI keyboard’.

  • @justaglove said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!

    He said it's supposed to be like that. Makes it like a real switch lol

    Really!? I missed that, maybe because it's so effing stupid. It's totally unusable if you want to do a recording and automate some effects on/off, not to mention live performance (I don't do those).

  • edited February 24

    @Pxlhg said:

    @justaglove said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!

    He said it's supposed to be like that. Makes it like a real switch lol

    Really!? I missed that, maybe because it's so effing stupid. It's totally unusable if you want to do a recording and automate some effects on/off, not to mention live performance (I don't do those).

    I believe it was confirmed on the CB3 forum. It's been complained about a few times, would really do them well to add a toggle to enable/disable the switch noise/silence. If people wanted fake switch clunk noises they'd just add a sample and duck the volume imo

  • Hi @justaglove Hi @Pxlhg

    This is by design, and unfortunately it can’t be changed.

    Best,
    Lars

  • @JuniorPops said:
    Thanks for the update, @LFS is there a way to use a bluetooth keyboard and play the instruments in Cubasas, like you can do on desktop.

    Hi @JuniorPops

    Thanks for your kind message!

    Using Bluetooth keyboards with Cubasis have been fully supported for many years.
    To learn more about how to use the feature, you may check the "Setup" article of the Cubasis help.

    https://www.steinberg.help/r/cubasis/3.8/en/cubasis/topics/setup_midi_r.html

    Hope that helps!

    Best,
    Lars

  • Hi all,

    Thank you very much for your kind feedback about Cubasis 3.8.3 so far - this is greatly appreciated!

    Best,
    Lars

  • @LFS said:
    Hi @justaglove Hi @Pxlhg

    This is by design, and unfortunately it can’t be changed.

    Best,
    Lars

    It's code not reinforced concrete, of course it can be changed.

  • Yeah, I gotta say, this feels like an unforced error or even a too precious idea.

    In a real world studio this behavior (a clank/stomp sound) would never make to a recording unless the engineer intended to make it so by mic-ing up the pedalboard for foley or special effect.

    & guitarists round the world stay hollering at multieffect pedal manufacturers that have even the tiniest of delays in signal when changing presets or effect blocks on & off.

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    A clunk sound enable/disable toggle on settings would be most welcome for this effect.

  • edited February 25

    @drconfusion said:

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    Right, so if a guitarist (or anyone else) doesn't use the Cubasis built-in amp effects, they're still grade-schoolers, and Cubasis isn't a "real DAW". Please.

    You're aware that there are in fact other amp sim AUv3 options for Cubasis?

  • I’m absolutely aware there are other amp & pedal sims.

    I was trying (perhaps poorly) to make the opposite point I think you thought I was making.

    I was saying anyone introducing a clunk foley sound to enabling/disabling an effect was tipping into a soundboard app realm.

    After listening more carefully to what’s happening today: I now don’t think Cubasis is introducing a clunk sound when disabling effects. Which is good.

    What I think is happening is that there’s a mismatch of timing in what seems to be fading down & up audio of the effect (from the tuner for example) quickly, which can cause clicks, being timed poorly with the fading down & up the muted audio out the plugin as a whole.

    So the fade out of the plugin itself is supposed to mask the enabling/disabling of the effect, but we’re still hearing clicks as the fade in/out of the effect is faster. & some of those clicks would have a thump to them if the frequency content is low & you’re listening on big monitors.

    So I’m gonna retract my judgement about a clunk/foley sound. My bad, I was overheated in my thoughts about what might be happening.

    & I’m more sympathetic to the Cubasis developer’s trying to deal with that switch over by doing a volume dip.

    This is hard to do in the software world even on dedicated dsp chips as valeton, mooer, nux, line 6, & even boss know. I’m sure it’s even harder to navigate on generic cpus like iPads & iPhones have.

  • & on further tests. I’m only getting mostly consistent clicks

    Consistently - the master on/off pedal, especially when going bypassed to enabled.

    Very consistently - the tuner getting enabled or disabled, not every time, but a lot of the time.

    Every once in a while - tape delay when enabling.

    For all other effects in this plugin, I can’t get a click when enabling / disabling them.

    Maybe there’s some special sauce in the tuner’s analysis routine that makes it hard to time the audio stream out of it with the over all volume of the amp sim plugin.

  • @musikeer said:

    @drconfusion said:

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    Right, so if a guitarist (or anyone else) doesn't use the Cubasis built-in amp effects, they're still grade-schoolers, and Cubasis isn't a "real DAW". Please.

    You're aware that there are in fact other amp sim AUv3 options for Cubasis?

    I'm hot on this because the new amp/s sound awesome, I have every option available on iOS (I think) but really have falling in love with these new releases (haven't used the bass much) so, that's why I'm totally stumped that a silence is deliberately introduced when toggling an effect on/off forcing me to stop using them and thus probably Cubasis altogether (speaking for myself only)

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @musikeer said:

    @drconfusion said:

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    Right, so if a guitarist (or anyone else) doesn't use the Cubasis built-in amp effects, they're still grade-schoolers, and Cubasis isn't a "real DAW". Please.

    You're aware that there are in fact other amp sim AUv3 options for Cubasis?

    I'm hot on this because the new amp/s sound awesome, I have every option available on iOS (I think) but really have falling in love with these new releases (haven't used the bass much) so, that's why I'm totally stumped that a silence is deliberately introduced when toggling an effect on/off forcing me to stop using them and thus probably Cubasis altogether (speaking for myself only)

    Is it ideal? No! But since you are not playing live their is so many work around you can use.

    You could have two tracks and switch track when switching effects . You could record on both tracks and just keep the recordings on the needed track.

    So many options. It’s far from a deal breaker.

  • @ecou said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @musikeer said:

    @drconfusion said:

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    Right, so if a guitarist (or anyone else) doesn't use the Cubasis built-in amp effects, they're still grade-schoolers, and Cubasis isn't a "real DAW". Please.

    You're aware that there are in fact other amp sim AUv3 options for Cubasis?

    I'm hot on this because the new amp/s sound awesome, I have every option available on iOS (I think) but really have falling in love with these new releases (haven't used the bass much) so, that's why I'm totally stumped that a silence is deliberately introduced when toggling an effect on/off forcing me to stop using them and thus probably Cubasis altogether (speaking for myself only)

    Is it ideal? No! But since you are not playing live their is so many work around you can use.

    You could have two tracks and switch track when switching effects . You could record on both tracks and just keep the recordings on the needed track.

    So many options. It’s far from a deal breaker.

    Nice workaround, but if I was planning several pedal changes I’d probably just use something else. Just tried and as expected Nembrini fx/sims don’t cut out the sound (didn’t try any others, pretty sure they don’t.). Definitely needs to be addressed @LFS.

  • wimwim
    edited February 26

    @pbelgium said:
    Nice workaround, but if I was planning several pedal changes I’d probably just use something else. Just tried and as expected Nembrini fx/sims don’t cut out the sound (didn’t try any others, pretty sure they don’t.). Definitely needs to be addressed @LFS.

    Apparently poor design choices can't be changed ... 🤷🏼‍♂️

    This is by design, and unfortunately it can’t be changed.

  • @pbelgium said:

    @ecou said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @musikeer said:

    @drconfusion said:

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    Right, so if a guitarist (or anyone else) doesn't use the Cubasis built-in amp effects, they're still grade-schoolers, and Cubasis isn't a "real DAW". Please.

    You're aware that there are in fact other amp sim AUv3 options for Cubasis?

    I'm hot on this because the new amp/s sound awesome, I have every option available on iOS (I think) but really have falling in love with these new releases (haven't used the bass much) so, that's why I'm totally stumped that a silence is deliberately introduced when toggling an effect on/off forcing me to stop using them and thus probably Cubasis altogether (speaking for myself only)

    Is it ideal? No! But since you are not playing live their is so many work around you can use.

    You could have two tracks and switch track when switching effects . You could record on both tracks and just keep the recordings on the needed track.

    So many options. It’s far from a deal breaker.

    Nice workaround, but if I was planning several pedal changes I’d probably just use something else. Just tried and as expected Nembrini fx/sims don’t cut out the sound (didn’t try any others, pretty sure they don’t.). Definitely needs to be addressed @LFS.

    I tried with Overloud TH-U and there's no silence and no clicks/rattle either. I though I should try Yonac as well but had it uninstalled and couldn't bother.
    I wonder what "by design" is supposed to do?

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @pbelgium said:

    @ecou said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @musikeer said:

    @drconfusion said:

    So, to me, this behavior is a significant step back for the image of Cubasis as a real DAW to do real work in & more towards the realm of very niche soundboard apps for grade-schoolers.

    Right, so if a guitarist (or anyone else) doesn't use the Cubasis built-in amp effects, they're still grade-schoolers, and Cubasis isn't a "real DAW". Please.

    You're aware that there are in fact other amp sim AUv3 options for Cubasis?

    I'm hot on this because the new amp/s sound awesome, I have every option available on iOS (I think) but really have falling in love with these new releases (haven't used the bass much) so, that's why I'm totally stumped that a silence is deliberately introduced when toggling an effect on/off forcing me to stop using them and thus probably Cubasis altogether (speaking for myself only)

    Is it ideal? No! But since you are not playing live their is so many work around you can use.

    You could have two tracks and switch track when switching effects . You could record on both tracks and just keep the recordings on the needed track.

    So many options. It’s far from a deal breaker.

    Nice workaround, but if I was planning several pedal changes I’d probably just use something else. Just tried and as expected Nembrini fx/sims don’t cut out the sound (didn’t try any others, pretty sure they don’t.). Definitely needs to be addressed @LFS.

    I tried with Overloud TH-U and there's no silence and no clicks/rattle either. I though I should try Yonac as well but had it uninstalled and couldn't bother.
    I wonder what "by design" is supposed to do?

    The fact you still can’t toggle with a MIDI switch means I really won’t be using the effects much. And even if there is an intentional silence, it’s absurdly long compared to an actual footswitch. It’s literally a full second of silence on a toggle. That’s not realistic behavior at all. The effects sound okay (can’t say I’m all that impressed), but controlling them is really trash.

  • @justaglove said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!

    He said it's supposed to be like that. Makes it like a real switch lol

    That’s not at all how a real switch works though. Here’s a comparison of Cubasis’s stomp with a full second of silence vs a real pedal which just…activates.

    @LFS said:
    Hi @justaglove Hi @Pxlhg

    This is by design, and unfortunately it can’t be changed.

    Best,
    Lars

    Like the others said, plenty of other pedal sims act as expected and I can’t see this being something that can’t be fixed in the future. Unless somehow new fangled pedals tend to cut silence completely on toggle, I don’t see how this is acceptable.

  • edited February 27

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @justaglove said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!
    //video//

    He said it's supposed to be like that. Makes it like a real switch lol

    That’s not at all how a real switch works though. Here’s a comparison of Cubasis’s stomp with a full second of silence vs a real pedal which just…activates.

    //video//

    @LFS said:
    Hi @justaglove Hi @Pxlhg

    This is by design, and unfortunately it can’t be changed.

    Best,
    Lars

    Like the others said, plenty of other pedal sims act as expected and I can’t see this being something that can’t be fixed in the future. Unless somehow new fangled pedals tend to cut silence completely on toggle, I don’t see how this is acceptable.

    Thank you for helping push this rather enigmatic issue further. I hope Lars (@LFS) can have another chat with the coders, maybe slap them around a bit as it seems deserved. (joking)

  • @Pxlhg said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @justaglove said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    @LFS Why don't the sound interruption when turning effects on/off get fixed, 4 in a row now and still ignored. Scandalous!
    //video//

    He said it's supposed to be like that. Makes it like a real switch lol

    That’s not at all how a real switch works though. Here’s a comparison of Cubasis’s stomp with a full second of silence vs a real pedal which just…activates.

    //video//

    @LFS said:
    Hi @justaglove Hi @Pxlhg

    This is by design, and unfortunately it can’t be changed.

    Best,
    Lars

    Like the others said, plenty of other pedal sims act as expected and I can’t see this being something that can’t be fixed in the future. Unless somehow new fangled pedals tend to cut silence completely on toggle, I don’t see how this is acceptable.

    Thank you for helping push this rather enigmatic issue further. I hope Lars (@LFS) can have another chat with the coders, maybe slap them around a bit as it seems deserved. (joking)

    It just doesn’t make sense. It’s clearly not a programming capabilities thing, since other sims doing have the issue. It can’t be for realism since that’s not how reality works. It can’t be a stylistic choice because how in the world is that beneficial? The issue isn’t the end of the world, but the excuses fall flat when it could just be addressed as “we have other priorities”, “we think these work best for studio purposes”, “we’re not focused on live performance”, or whatever the reason is.

    I’m still liking Cubasis, and if you’re recording different chains for different sections the pedals work. But you can’t make a scratch track where an effect kicks in if it cuts the sound. Don’t put your effects in a stomp box design if they’re supposed to be used as bus fx or only for production.

  • wimwim
    edited February 27

    I really hate to say it, but if no headway can be made here or on their forums to change their minds about this design decision ... maybe dinging App Store reviews by a star and commenting on it will get someone's attention.

  • When I click solo on a track it does not mute all other tracks. I seem to remember it did that that before. Anyone ?

  • @wim said:
    I really hate to say it, but if no headway can be made here or on their forums to change their minds about this design decision ... maybe dinging App Store reviews by a star and commenting on it will get someone's attention.

    Good point. I wouldn’t ding a point for lacking guitar effects, but to implement them like this and refusing to address it does hold it back in the context of the tool.

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