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Options for low latency MIDI to/from iPad?

I know basically nothing about MIDI latency in general, and even less when it comes to iPads/iPhones.

So, what’s the best and hopefully still affordable way to get ultra-low latency MIDI to and from an iPad?

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  • Dont know much about latency either.

    If a bluetooth piano. Obviously best at low buffer. 256 for me max.

    I can seem to use ipads via bluetooth as drum pad controllers on perhaps 1024 ( defo 512 ) I dont even really notice.

    That said. When it comes to recording Swam instruments etc ( so just audio ) I have thought the instruments ( trumpet etc ) might be too far ahead of what I made. Just because the swam ipad is 1024 buffer and reciever ipad on less ( say for a low buffer piano )

    Iv got an audio4c though and also route hardwired midi ( not on low buffer again lol )

    I think you can buy a midi only version ( so hard wired midi interface )

    Dunno man.

  • I don’t think there’s noticeable difference in latency for Bluetooth midi between different devices. It’s pretty much a fixed quantity.

    Bluetooth midi isn’t like Bluetooth audio which has very high latency but may be better or worse between devices. Generally added latency for Bluetooth midi is less than a few milliseconds. I’ve measured it. Some people are sensitive to those kinds of changes while others are less sensitive.

    Buffers affect overall latency but they have no affect on the added latency for midi over Bluetooth. What may affect throughput though is high amounts of data. Some devices struggle with the high load from MPE and/or midi clock.

  • I suggest a WiDi bluetooth device if you're a home user with hardware synths, or one of the wired options if performing for others or need extra ports.
    https://www.cme-pro.com/shop/

    If you're looking to just send MIDI between iDevices, phones, ipad.. I suggest MIDIMittr. This app is the bees knees.
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/midimittr/id925495245

    The one you choose will depend on how/what you want to route midi from/to your ipad and how many simultaneous connections to need to maintain at once.

    Bluetooth MIDI can be really, really great. it just depends on your environment. I live in an apartment building with 8 units and a lot of cross network interference, and rarely have any drops using bluetooth to send midi clock and notes from one ipad or my phone to another.

  • wimwim
    edited March 21

    @justaglove said:
    I suggest a WiDi bluetooth device if you're a home user with hardware synths, or one of the wired options if performing for others or need extra ports.
    https://www.cme-pro.com/shop/

    I think maybe they advertise lower latency too? I forget.

    If you're looking to just send MIDI between iDevices, phones, ipad.. I suggest MIDIMittr. This app is the bees knees.
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/midimittr/id925495245

    Just to be clear, MIDIMittr doesn't actually do any midi transmitting. It only manages connections. If you have hosts that have their own Bluetooth connection dialogs, you don't need MIDIMittr, but it does come in handy if you have, for instance a host like Drambo that only has the peripheral dialog and doesn't have Bluetooth MIDI advertising. The actual mechanism, once the connections are set, is just the standard iOS/iPadOS BLE MIDI transmission system.

  • edited March 22

    @wim said:

    @justaglove said:
    I suggest a WiDi bluetooth device if you're a home user with hardware synths, or one of the wired options if performing for others or need extra ports.
    https://www.cme-pro.com/shop/

    I think maybe they advertise lower latency too? I forget.

    If you're looking to just send MIDI between iDevices, phones, ipad.. I suggest MIDIMittr. This app is the bees knees.
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/midimittr/id925495245

    Just to be clear, MIDIMittr doesn't actually do any midi transmitting. It only manages connections. If you have hosts that have their own Bluetooth connection dialogs, you don't need MIDIMittr, but it does come in handy if you have, for instance a host like Drambo that only has the peripheral dialog and doesn't have Bluetooth MIDI advertising. The actual mechanism, once the connections are set, is just the standard iOS/iPadOS BLE MIDI transmission system.

    Yes that's correct,
    I frequently use MIDIMittr standalone with a Keystep 37 or launchpad type controller attached to my phone, sending MIDI wirelessly to my ipad hosts that way.

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