Any MPE Pianos?

FizzyLizzy27

Are there any MPE piano plugins?

McD

AudioLayer is a powerful MPE capable sampler app that can load instruments from Xinematix which has some grand pianos. Audiolayer can also install SF2 packaged instruments and there are
Some excellent free SF2 Grand Pianos out there.

The trick to get AudioLayer to respond to MPE MIDI controllers is to set the option “MIDI INPUT” to MIDI Master 1 or MIDI Master 16 (you controller will use 1 or 16 for control commands and 2-14 for the individual MIDI notes requiring it’s own pitch bend inputs). There’s also a setting for Pitch Bend radius from 2-48 you should set to match your controllers settings.

Fantastic

I don't think any good ones. I found xinematix not very responsive, the whole approach of CC74 being a morph between three presets just isn't close to what you'd get out of something modeled if we could map any parameters. My hope is Pianoteq does it at some point, as it at least does have the per-note pitch bend, so the engine is ready, just not what they are focused on, but Syngular was a surprise so hopefully one day. Does Audiomodern Soundbox have a piano?

AnalogMatthew

What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

FizzyLizzy27

@AnalogMatthew said:
What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

Per note hammer hardness and pitch bend are the first that come to mind.

SampleWiz 2 has some that have been fun.

wim

Realistic pitch bend is essential for a good piano app.

FizzyLizzy27

@wim said:
Realistic pitch bend is essential for a good piano app.

I like my reality a little warped 😎🌳💨

I think pretty much anything in Pianoteq that you can adjust on a per string basis would work. It would be nice to have MPE in Pianoteq for the guitar at least.

egobeats

I thought Ribbons had a piano

hes

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@AnalogMatthew said:
What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

Per note hammer hardness and pitch bend are the first that come to mind.

SampleWiz 2 has some that have been fun.

Pretty sure you can do per note hammer hardness (as well as of course pitch bend) in Pianoteq. But by its very nature hammer hardness isn't really mpe-friendly, since it's not continuous over the life of the note, it's an one-time instantaneous setting for when a note is hit. The true MPE params would be ones that can be continuously changed over life of the note. I think Pianoteq only does this for pitch bend. You could vary the hammer hardness setting on a per note basis as much as you wanted, but the only setting that is used is the one that it has when you hit a note.

FizzyLizzy27

@hes said:

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@AnalogMatthew said:
What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

Per note hammer hardness and pitch bend are the first that come to mind.

SampleWiz 2 has some that have been fun.

Pretty sure you can do per note hammer hardness (as well as of course pitch bend) in Pianoteq. But by its very nature hammer hardness isn't really mpe-friendly, since it's not continuous over the life of the note, it's an one-time instantaneous setting for when a note is hit. The true MPE params would be ones that can be continuously changed over life of the note. I think Pianoteq only does this for pitch bend. You could vary the hammer hardness setting on a per note basis as much as you wanted, but the only setting that is used is the one that it has when you hit a note.

Pianoteq can pitch bend, but can it do it on a per note basis?

Gavinski

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@hes said:

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@AnalogMatthew said:
What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

Per note hammer hardness and pitch bend are the first that come to mind.

SampleWiz 2 has some that have been fun.

Pretty sure you can do per note hammer hardness (as well as of course pitch bend) in Pianoteq. But by its very nature hammer hardness isn't really mpe-friendly, since it's not continuous over the life of the note, it's an one-time instantaneous setting for when a note is hit. The true MPE params would be ones that can be continuously changed over life of the note. I think Pianoteq only does this for pitch bend. You could vary the hammer hardness setting on a per note basis as much as you wanted, but the only setting that is used is the one that it has when you hit a note.

Pianoteq can pitch bend, but can it do it on a per note basis?

It can! To get it to work as you want it to, you might have to adjust the bend range (see settings).

Gavinski

@Gavinski said:

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@hes said:

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@AnalogMatthew said:
What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

Per note hammer hardness and pitch bend are the first that come to mind.

SampleWiz 2 has some that have been fun.

Pretty sure you can do per note hammer hardness (as well as of course pitch bend) in Pianoteq. But by its very nature hammer hardness isn't really mpe-friendly, since it's not continuous over the life of the note, it's an one-time instantaneous setting for when a note is hit. The true MPE params would be ones that can be continuously changed over life of the note. I think Pianoteq only does this for pitch bend. You could vary the hammer hardness setting on a per note basis as much as you wanted, but the only setting that is used is the one that it has when you hit a note.

Pianoteq can pitch bend, but can it do it on a per note basis?

It can! To get it to work as you want it to, you might have to adjust the bend range (see settings).

Note also that the exact way this will work will depend on your mpe controller's settings. Specifically, whether it's 1 channel per note or 1 channel per string. I just realized that Salome is 1 channel per string. Velocity Keyboard app allows you to select whether it's 1 channel per note or 1 per string. If you're playing guitar sounds, the latter is a better choice, for piano, choose the former.

Fantastic

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@hes said:

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@AnalogMatthew said:
What params would you like to see available to be modulated by MPE?

Per note hammer hardness and pitch bend are the first that come to mind.

SampleWiz 2 has some that have been fun.

Pretty sure you can do per note hammer hardness (as well as of course pitch bend) in Pianoteq. But by its very nature hammer hardness isn't really mpe-friendly, since it's not continuous over the life of the note, it's an one-time instantaneous setting for when a note is hit. The true MPE params would be ones that can be continuously changed over life of the note. I think Pianoteq only does this for pitch bend. You could vary the hammer hardness setting on a per note basis as much as you wanted, but the only setting that is used is the one that it has when you hit a note.

Pianoteq can pitch bend, but can it do it on a per note basis?

Yes, per note.
I can't personally listen to it on the actual pianos, hurts my ear feelings, but i enjoy it with some EPs, clavs, and quite obviously guitar

Tentype

Xinematix 👍🏽 works like a charm with MPE