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That last paragraph…wow. There’s a reason why I stick to established devs with a good rep (OB XD 3 aside). I don’t use AI to make music , and I sure as hell won’t by any apps that were coded with it
There are exceptions, Augmatic GRE was a very solid release, done with care. This release should, in theory, have been one of the good ones. With access to the synth engine, this could have been a very good drum synth.
I don't (currently at least) feel a need for a total embargo on apps that have been vibe coded or AI-assisted.
But for sure there will be a lot of subpar releases and we need to stay vigilant and quickly warn others when we run into turkeys like this.
I don’t get the hate towards AI agents as coding assistants. It’s not a purely creative skill like music. If you’re working in Xcode AI is so baked in at this point it might as well be spell check. If you’re coding and there’s an error in Xcode it’ll give you the option to click “fix with AI” and do the coding equivalent of spell correction. The issue isn’t the ai assistance, it’s blindly accepting every change it makes, poor software engineering, lack of coding knowledge, no architecture planning, or little testing. Garbage in, garbage out.
And frankly, there have always been a lot of mediocre releases, even by 'real' devs. Truly great releases are the exception, mediocrity is the norm.
As an assistant there's great merit to be had, the problem is all these grifters coming in with no experience or vision for how things are supposed to function or be put together.
I also worry about long standing devs potentially leaning too hard on new assistance, making current products become sloppy and harder to test properly.
Yeah I should’ve been more clear ; I’m ok with using AI for assistance (hell I do that with my band’s artwork, albeit more as a filter on existing art made by one of us). It’s the latter example you gave that is doing it for me
Oh definitely, I’ve run into a few myself lol.
Funny enough, right after writing that comment above, youtube showed me this video in my feed:
I checked the trust pilot rating. Was not surprised to see it has a 2 star rating lmao:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/rork.com
I know most people now will just be using Claude or whatever, but I still found that funny.
Tbh, you should probably drop that kind of AI artwork. Lots of ppl are anti AI now. Make your own posters!
I think that’s the big difference between “vibe coding” and using AI “autonomous agents”. The fact that the dev can’t answer simple questions about synths tells me there were a lot of genetic prompts. @Gavinski mentioning Augmatic GRE is a good example where the dev made a great AI assisted app with a vision and knowledge about the concepts implemented.
I think it’s really cool that Xcode has an AI error “spell check”. It’s really let me focus on what I love about software dev - that being systems engineering, machine logic, utility/artistic UI design, math, and especially software testing. AI assistants really let me front load my brain on the initial design and free it up to polish later.
(Regarding typewriters) Nietzsche stated, “Our writing tools are also working on our thoughts.”
In our case, at least since October, it’s been more along existing photos of us with AI used to cartoon us (like the current release is the four of us laid on top of a picture drawn by our guitarist Dino ). But yeah I know what you mean…I don’t want anyone to think we use AI to make our music , cause all 4 of us play multiple physical instruments in addition to using iOS instruments .
I don’t have anything against vibe coding as such (as opposed to AI generated art which I have enormous problems with) but I think the key is largely whether the human being behind a project has genuine coding experience and understanding or not?
If they do, they can understand why things are working and how to fix and maintain things going forward.
If they don’t, and things don’t work, or stop working, they won’t have a clue how to fix it other than asking AI again.
The latter is a recipe for disaster if you’re planning to actually sell the resulting piece of software.
And, yes, if it turns out this app has been permanently pulled, Apple should really issue automatic refunds to everyone - surely they must have something in place for such a scenario?
Refunded. Vibe coded dross. The wave of AI coded, half-baked, buggy apps and plugins has begun. And if these new developers manage to ship a working product, let’s see how they troubleshoot a realtime audio DSP bug, etc. It will improve, I know, but there’s going to be a serious drop in quality in the short term.
Long term too. What might work perfectly on release, might not get fixed when the next iOS update breaks it, if the code’s been knocked up in AI by a novice dev.
Apple rejected my refund request on this piece of shit btw, unbelievable. Despite the fact the dev himself pulled it from the store, and - based on what Robin said - that’s likely permanent. I’ve sent an appeal, but I doubt it’ll make any difference. Still no reply at all from the dev either, wow…
I'm surprised they've said that. If there's no chance of a fix beacuse it's been removed, and it doesn't work as advertised, then you are entitled to a refund.
Meanwhile, despite the app being pulled from the store, there is no announcement on their website. I just find the whole way they’ve handled this thing pretty outrageous, I have to say.
I bought this on the China Store, which, from experience, is hit and miss on giving refunds. I wasn’t bothered when I bought it, as it was only $5 and I felt sure I would want to keep the app. When I applied for the refund, I used the ‘Other’ option as reason for refund, and wrote an explanation of how the app was broken and had been pulled. They still rejected it. Did a human even read it? Who knows…and no reason is ever given when a refund is rejected.
I just put my refund request in on the UK store, though I’d not if I thought they were just having a hiatus to fix it… on the Mac you could scroll down to get more options on the sound btw
I don't know why he's just not willing to fix the iOS version, at least not according to what Robin heard from him. This app has good potential it seems. What was your impression of the synth parameters on the Mac version Chris?
Somewhat better, you could definitely change the pitch of the drums using the comb settings for a start. I haven’t had a chance to look at the iPad version again to compare, I was wondering if there was a way to scroll down in the same way as the Mac that was missed by us all…
Clearly not. Otherwise the dev would have mentioned it to Robin. But I've also tried seeing if there are hidden parts of the UI, as have you and others, I'm sure. There aren't! Do u have a screenshot of what the scrolling down looks like on Mac by any chance?
Not right now, I might make it in the studio over the weekend but not sure yet, depends on the weather!
Actually just opened my iPad and you can scroll down to the comb parameters…
Yes, but that's just in fx. Nowhere can you access the '25+ synth parameters' mentioned in the manual. Is that different on desktop? But yeah, OK, at least that lets you tune the kick, better than nothing...
No, apart from the headline number, is there anywhere in the manual that details what those 25 ‘wild hogs’ parameters are?
Important to be clear that, even with deeper synth access, a ton of other issues remain. Apart from the incomplete apple pencil gesture feature set, there is also the lack of ability to send midi CC. No midi notes out, which is a minor thing maybe, but there's also no way to route the CC messages generated by the pencil movements, as this app doesn't appear as a midi source in AUM midi control menu. Again though, that stuff should surely be an easy fix so I don't understand why the dev would pull the app permanently, such a weird and bad move, if it is indeed the intention.
Yeah, I can’t get into the sequencer either, it’s very unresponsive and I can’t get the per step stuff going at all…
So is there more to the sequencer in the desktop version too? One aspect of per step stuff I did get working was ability to use the pencil to record in different decay lengths per step. But it really feels a bit gimmicky and imprecise to do that with a pencil. I mean, it might be nice to have, but the whole pencil use case thing feels half baked, and there should be ways to do that stuff just with fingers too.
Woah, that’s really shit. No doubt they will have to give the refund eventually (surely?) but who knows how much arguing back and forth it’ll take to get to the point where that happens - arguing you absolutely shouldn’t have to do in this scenario.
I’ve just emailed the developer again (never heard back after my last reply to his email though) to ask plainly whether it’s gone for good or whether he’s planning to fix and rerelease it?
If he’s getting lots of emails informing him that it doesn’t work and Apple are refusing refunds after he’s pulled it from the AppStore though, he might be cautious about saying anything to anyone because of potential legal implications? I know nothing about the legality of such things but someone - himself and/or Apple - must surely be on dubious ground? He’s messed up for sure but Apple refusing refunds, preventing him from doing the right thing, just amps the whole thing up unnecessarily and I do feel for him in that regard.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.