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Time signature automation in DAW - does it even make sense ? :-)
[ANSWERD, NOW I UNDERSTAND]
Curious - i found this feature (time signature automation - this is diffrent than tempo automation) absolutely useless, or at least extremely confusing , never used in in my entire life.. Is there anybody who ever used this in some real song where it made any sense ?
I mean not theoretical sense. I want to hear if anybody REALLY used it in own music ![]()

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It makes sense if you're trying to recreate Prog Rock. 😂 I've used it here and there sparingly in apps like Gadget (which has per-scene time and tempo automation options).
there is literally style where they do such madness ? omg :-)
Oh yeah, Prog Rock can be as tame as Pink Floyd (I don't mean "tame" in a bad way, Pink Floyd is amazing!), or as nuts as King Crimson (again, I mean "nuts" in a good way). And their songs could go on for a very long time.
It's a great genre to get into on a slow day if you're not too busy with things.
Lots of music has time signature changes. Not just progressive rock and jazz. Burt Bacharach uses them a lot. The Beatles occasionally and many others.
True that.
I was being somewhat facetious when I said "Prog Rock", lol. Some of the most complex music on planet Earth is Prog though to be fair. 😂
This track made with @unlink uses both time signature and tempo automation to transition from the ambient intro into the high octane post rock / math punk-ish part (transition starts around 3:00 is you're lazy to listen to the intro)
Time signature and tempo automation were also intensively used to get the string section to follow @LinearLineman piano improvisation he recorded without click. Time signature was very helpful especially as Mike occasionally skips or adds beats to the measure during his improvisations
Even for this EDM track I used the same combo tempo / time sign automation in the intro. This was possible because the original guitar sample from @pbelgium is in 6/8 which I first treated as 4/4 in the intro to match some filtered drum loops before taking the track into 6/8.
Three very different genres, all using tempo and time signature in conjunction. Those tracks might not be your kind of dope, which is fine by any account, but I don't think you can call the time signature automation function useless 😉
I am sure with a bit of imagination you could even incorporate the function in your own music.
ok thanks guys for eye opening moment, :-)
@JanKun
Listened to your music and even through it is really not my cup of tea, I strongly appreciate the complexity and sophisticated arrangement structures - I can hear work of true artist there here ! Respect !
Dance of Eternity, by Dream Theater, has over 100 times signature changes in 6 minutes.
It’s probably the most extreme example I can use.
I have exactly the same level of appreciation for your music ! Btw, missing your long jam sessions, hope we can hear more soon!
Not just in Prog music, but during the hundreds of years previous. Almost every classical composer you could name has used time signature changes within individual pieces.
Here's one from me from 24 years ago, OMG. Slightly proggy, perhaps. If you listen from 1:15 you'll hear a change from the 3/4 verse to 4/4 chorus, with a key change to boot. It's a bit jarring probably
Spilt Milk by The Dairy GiantTool use a lot of different time signatures. Alice in chains too but not as much. Many extreme metal band. Math Rock and Math Metal is based on weird time signatures.
Obligatory Angine de poitrine vidéo 😆

Add Frank Zappa who did tons of time sig changes in many of his songs, plus Rush (the rock band from the 70s) who were masters in making odd time signature changes still sound musical and fluent.

Or Jacob Collier if you want more great examples from modern times 😊
I think I will have to write a song that changes time signatures a couple times. Just to say i did it . 😆
Right up there with people that play keyboards with two hands at once. 🫣
Now that's just plain showing off.
Ok ok.. i got enoug ratio in this thread, now i underdtsnd it was pretty dumb question 🤣
How about people who play keyboards with two hands that get paid to do so? 😉
What about people who play keyboards with two hands sitting backwards whilst revolving in the air… the late and great Mr Keith Emerson !
What about the amazing and brilliant Rachel Flowers, she is blind, just type her name in YouTube and be amazed 👌
Rumor has it banjo players use the thumb and two fingers on the right hand. Counting the four on the left, thats roughly 7 digits! Except for my Uncle Jimmy, who plays with 6 1/2 fingers after the 4th of July fireworks incident.