Cine Reverb by DawgPound Audio LLC (Released)

torrescampalans

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@MrStochastic said:
I'm curious what stands out in the description as ai generated text. After some comments here and elsewhere on the forum I read through it and I guess I'm just not attuned to whatever seems so obvious to others.

• I'm not doubting that it is ai. I"m just wondering if anyone could take an example from it and show how a human would write it instead.

The “extra fingers” equivalent of AI writing is em dashes. I’d never seen — used instead of - before ai generated writing got big. AI loves rules of three (“moody, atmospheric, expansive”, “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3”, “ focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility”). It also loves the “no this thing, no that thing — just this other thing” style of making a point. In this case, “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”
Spelling out “ Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin” is pretty silly.

I didn’t find this description to be too egregious. It lays out what the app’s purpose and vision is and clears up most questions. It’s not too hyperbolic and doesn’t say this was “hand-crafted in the lab” like I’ve seen a lot claim The writing is usually just very sanitized. This feels like a version of an App Store description you’d get after telling the AI to tone it down a few times.

Here’s an AI version of what I just wrote:

Let’s talk about the “extra fingers” of AI writing: the em dash. Until generative AI exploded onto the scene, I’d genuinely never encountered — used in place of a humble hyphen. It’s a subtle tell, but once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

AI adores the rule of three. It’s everywhere — “moody, atmospheric, and expansive,” “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3,” “a focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility.” Three beats, every time. Clean, rhythmic, and just a little too perfect.

It also can’t resist the classic negation flourish — that “no this, no that — just this other thing” construction designed to land a point with effortless punch. Case in point: “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”

And then there’s the needless precision of spelling out “Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin,” as if clarity and helpfulness were the same thing.

Here’s the thing, though: this particular description isn’t egregious. It lays out the app’s purpose, articulates its vision, and answers most of the questions a curious user might have. It’s not breathlessly hyperbolic. It doesn’t claim the thing was “hand-crafted in the lab” the way so many do. The writing is simply… sanitized. Smooth. Frictionless. This is the kind of App Store copy you end up with after telling the AI to “tone it down” a few times — polished, professional, and utterly bloodless.

But here’s the quiet part said out loud: none of this is bad writing. That’s exactly what makes it so insidious. It’s competent. It’s clear. It checks every box. And that’s the problem — it reads like it was assembled rather than written, optimized rather than felt.

But really — look for the em dashes.

Brilliant

daddyfalldown

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@MrStochastic said:
I'm curious what stands out in the description as ai generated text. After some comments here and elsewhere on the forum I read through it and I guess I'm just not attuned to whatever seems so obvious to others.

• I'm not doubting that it is ai. I"m just wondering if anyone could take an example from it and show how a human would write it instead.

The “extra fingers” equivalent of AI writing is em dashes. I’d never seen — used instead of - before ai generated writing got big. AI loves rules of three (“moody, atmospheric, expansive”, “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3”, “ focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility”). It also loves the “no this thing, no that thing — just this other thing” style of making a point. In this case, “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”
Spelling out “ Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin” is pretty silly.

I didn’t find this description to be too egregious. It lays out what the app’s purpose and vision is and clears up most questions. It’s not too hyperbolic and doesn’t say this was “hand-crafted in the lab” like I’ve seen a lot claim The writing is usually just very sanitized. This feels like a version of an App Store description you’d get after telling the AI to tone it down a few times.

Here’s an AI version of what I just wrote:

Let’s talk about the “extra fingers” of AI writing: the em dash. Until generative AI exploded onto the scene, I’d genuinely never encountered — used in place of a humble hyphen. It’s a subtle tell, but once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

AI adores the rule of three. It’s everywhere — “moody, atmospheric, and expansive,” “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3,” “a focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility.” Three beats, every time. Clean, rhythmic, and just a little too perfect.

It also can’t resist the classic negation flourish — that “no this, no that — just this other thing” construction designed to land a point with effortless punch. Case in point: “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”

And then there’s the needless precision of spelling out “Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin,” as if clarity and helpfulness were the same thing.

Here’s the thing, though: this particular description isn’t egregious. It lays out the app’s purpose, articulates its vision, and answers most of the questions a curious user might have. It’s not breathlessly hyperbolic. It doesn’t claim the thing was “hand-crafted in the lab” the way so many do. The writing is simply… sanitized. Smooth. Frictionless. This is the kind of App Store copy you end up with after telling the AI to “tone it down” a few times — polished, professional, and utterly bloodless.

But here’s the quiet part said out loud: none of this is bad writing. That’s exactly what makes it so insidious. It’s competent. It’s clear. It checks every box. And that’s the problem — it reads like it was assembled rather than written, optimized rather than felt.

But really — look for the em dashes.

Yeah, the tell-tale em dash. Take this poem, for example. Judging by the copious use of em dashes, there's a very good chance it was written by AI:

Come slowly—Eden
Lips unused to Thee—
Bashful—sip thy Jessamines
As the fainting Bee—

Reaching late his flower,
Round her chamber hums—
Counts his nectars—
Enters—and is lost in Balms.

**Seven em dashes in an eight-line poem! Yikes! **

But no, AI didn't write it. Emily Dickinson did.

timfromtheborder

It’s not the em dashes. AI uses them because writers use them. It’s more that AI writing has a voice, much the way Stephen King has a voice. The vocabulary is small and favours certain words (breathes, clean, alive), the grammar favours certain structures, and the text also tends to promise a lot. The more AI text you read, the easier it is to identify, because humans are good at pattern recognition.

Gavinski

@timfromtheborder said:
It’s not the em dashes. AI uses them because writers use them. It’s more that AI writing has a voice, much the way Stephen King has a voice. The vocabulary is small and favours certain words (breathes, clean, alive), the grammar favours certain structures, and the text also tends to promise a lot. The more AI text you read, the easier it is to identify, because humans are good at pattern recognition.

Yes. Add to that list ‘it lives in’, one I absolutely despise, for some reason, in the context of appstore descriptions.

jwmmakerofmusic

@Gavinski said:

@timfromtheborder said:
It’s not the em dashes. AI uses them because writers use them. It’s more that AI writing has a voice, much the way Stephen King has a voice. The vocabulary is small and favours certain words (breathes, clean, alive), the grammar favours certain structures, and the text also tends to promise a lot. The more AI text you read, the easier it is to identify, because humans are good at pattern recognition.

Yes. Add to that list ‘it lives in’, one I absolutely despise, for some reason, in the context of appstore descriptions.

"It lives in all of us". 😆

Gavinski

Here’s the kind of example that really drives me up the fkn wall:

“These apps are alive. Not abandonware. Not acquisition residue. Tools I care about. Tell us what broke or what'd make the work better - we're listening. Reviews aren't ratings. They're the roadmap.”

This is from the Twitter account of one dev who’s unwisely using an AI agent to handle his Twitter, including by posting replies to posts on accounts that his AI identifies as being relevant to his niche. The definition of slop, and the definition of counterproductive marketing.

Gavinski

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Gavinski said:

@timfromtheborder said:
It’s not the em dashes. AI uses them because writers use them. It’s more that AI writing has a voice, much the way Stephen King has a voice. The vocabulary is small and favours certain words (breathes, clean, alive), the grammar favours certain structures, and the text also tends to promise a lot. The more AI text you read, the easier it is to identify, because humans are good at pattern recognition.

Yes. Add to that list ‘it lives in’, one I absolutely despise, for some reason, in the context of appstore descriptions.

"It lives in all of us". 😆

Lol. This kind of thing:

“Nebula Synth lives in the space between texture and melody, allowing you to transform samples into evolving soundscapes.”

Gavinski

ChatGPT obliged with a few more examples lol:

“Whether you’re crafting lush ambient textures, evolving soundscapes, or intricate rhythmic patterns, [App Name] puts the power of professional sound design at your fingertips.”

“It lives in the space between inspiration and innovation, giving you the freedom to shape your unique sonic identity.”

“From subtle warmth to extreme experimentation, every parameter invites you to embark on a journey of discovery.”

“Designed for modern creators, [App Name] seamlessly blends simplicity and depth, making complex sound design accessible to everyone.”

“A new era of mobile music creation begins here.”

“Dive into a universe of evolving tones, where every note becomes an opportunity for exploration.”

“At its core, [App Name] is more than just an effect — it’s a creative companion that transforms your ideas into reality.”

“Experience the future of music production with a workflow that adapts to your imagination.”

“Let your creativity flow and discover sounds you never knew existed.”

Devs, please: Make like Zammo from Grange Hill, “Just Say No!” 🤮 🤮 🤮

FizzyLizzy27

@timfromtheborder said:
It’s not the em dashes. AI uses them because writers use them. It’s more that AI writing has a voice, much the way Stephen King has a voice. The vocabulary is small and favours certain words (breathes, clean, alive), the grammar favours certain structures, and the text also tends to promise a lot. The more AI text you read, the easier it is to identify, because humans are good at pattern recognition.

Yeah, I get that writers use them, but in casual posts or app descriptions I didn’t typically see them until generative AI.

@daddyfalldown said:

@FizzyLizzy27 said:

@MrStochastic said:
I'm curious what stands out in the description as ai generated text. After some comments here and elsewhere on the forum I read through it and I guess I'm just not attuned to whatever seems so obvious to others.

• I'm not doubting that it is ai. I"m just wondering if anyone could take an example from it and show how a human would write it instead.

The “extra fingers” equivalent of AI writing is em dashes. I’d never seen — used instead of - before ai generated writing got big. AI loves rules of three (“moody, atmospheric, expansive”, “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3”, “ focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility”). It also loves the “no this thing, no that thing — just this other thing” style of making a point. In this case, “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”
Spelling out “ Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin” is pretty silly.

I didn’t find this description to be too egregious. It lays out what the app’s purpose and vision is and clears up most questions. It’s not too hyperbolic and doesn’t say this was “hand-crafted in the lab” like I’ve seen a lot claim The writing is usually just very sanitized. This feels like a version of an App Store description you’d get after telling the AI to tone it down a few times.

Here’s an AI version of what I just wrote:

Let’s talk about the “extra fingers” of AI writing: the em dash. Until generative AI exploded onto the scene, I’d genuinely never encountered — used in place of a humble hyphen. It’s a subtle tell, but once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

AI adores the rule of three. It’s everywhere — “moody, atmospheric, and expansive,” “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3,” “a focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility.” Three beats, every time. Clean, rhythmic, and just a little too perfect.

It also can’t resist the classic negation flourish — that “no this, no that — just this other thing” construction designed to land a point with effortless punch. Case in point: “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”

And then there’s the needless precision of spelling out “Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin,” as if clarity and helpfulness were the same thing.

Here’s the thing, though: this particular description isn’t egregious. It lays out the app’s purpose, articulates its vision, and answers most of the questions a curious user might have. It’s not breathlessly hyperbolic. It doesn’t claim the thing was “hand-crafted in the lab” the way so many do. The writing is simply… sanitized. Smooth. Frictionless. This is the kind of App Store copy you end up with after telling the AI to “tone it down” a few times — polished, professional, and utterly bloodless.

But here’s the quiet part said out loud: none of this is bad writing. That’s exactly what makes it so insidious. It’s competent. It’s clear. It checks every box. And that’s the problem — it reads like it was assembled rather than written, optimized rather than felt.

But really — look for the em dashes.

Yeah, the tell-tale em dash. Take this poem, for example. Judging by the copious use of em dashes, there's a very good chance it was written by AI:

Come slowly—Eden
Lips unused to Thee—
Bashful—sip thy Jessamines
As the fainting Bee—

Reaching late his flower,
Round her chamber hums—
Counts his nectars—
Enters—and is lost in Balms.

**Seven em dashes in an eight-line poem! Yikes! **

But no, AI didn't write it. Emily Dickinson did.

Again, I don’t mean literally only AI uses em dashes. That poem’s em dashes make it read as more human. It’s when it’s contextually out of place that it’s a red flag that something smells fishy. A red flag, not a law. It’s also a character that’s easy to spot quickly amidst a wall of text.

FizzyLizzy27

Anyways, is this reverb any good? lol

rottencat

Back to the topic of verbs that are probably better than Cine:

Velvet Machine.

jwmmakerofmusic

@Gavinski said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Gavinski said:

@timfromtheborder said:
It’s not the em dashes. AI uses them because writers use them. It’s more that AI writing has a voice, much the way Stephen King has a voice. The vocabulary is small and favours certain words (breathes, clean, alive), the grammar favours certain structures, and the text also tends to promise a lot. The more AI text you read, the easier it is to identify, because humans are good at pattern recognition.

Yes. Add to that list ‘it lives in’, one I absolutely despise, for some reason, in the context of appstore descriptions.

"It lives in all of us". 😆

Lol. This kind of thing:

“Nebula Synth lives in the space between texture and melody, allowing you to transform samples into evolving soundscapes.”

Yep, all that corporate slop, whether written by AI or a human, is pretty cringe at best, lol.

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@rottencat said:
Back to the topic of verbs that are probably better than Cine:

Velvet Machine.

Velvet Machine is like a reverb, but goes way beyond that with its volume curve and such. Great plugin!

Gavinski

@FizzyLizzy27 said:
Anyways, is this reverb any good? lol

Doesn't seem anyone's bought it, so who knows 😂

jwmmakerofmusic

@FizzyLizzy27 said:
Anyways, is this reverb any good? lol

Lol, I'm not about to purchase it just to find out. Seems a bit rubbish to me based on the sound demos, but I'd like to be proven wrong. $15 though is a gamble for a plugin whose sound demos sounded rubbish at best.

MrStochastic

@FizzyLizzy27 said:
The “extra fingers” equivalent of AI writing is em dashes. I’d never seen — used instead of - before ai generated writing got big. AI loves rules of three (“moody, atmospheric, expansive”, “loads in Logic, GarageBand, or any AUv3”, “ focus on character, clarity, and creative flexibility”). It also loves the “no this thing, no that thing — just this other thing” style of making a point. In this case, “No clutter, no color-coded confusion — just controls that look as good as they sound.”
Spelling out “ Audio Unit version 3 (AUv3) plugin” is pretty silly.

I didn’t find this description to be too egregious. It lays out what the app’s purpose and vision is and clears up most questions. It’s not too hyperbolic and doesn’t say this was “hand-crafted in the lab” like I’ve seen a lot claim The writing is usually just very sanitized. This feels like a version of an App Store description you’d get after telling the AI to tone it down a few times.

But here’s the quiet part said out loud: none of this is bad writing. That’s exactly what makes it so insidious. It’s competent. It’s clear. It checks every box. And that’s the problem — it reads like it was assembled rather than written, optimized rather than felt.

But really — look for the em dashes.

Thanks for your detailed info. Your points seem valid (for the time being).

timfromtheborder

https://dawgpoundaudio.com/

Here’s the developer’s website. It is clearly completely AI. The company itself was registered a few months ago. The UX on their plugins are all over the place, and IMO pretty poorly designed. Everything about this screams low effort vibe coding to me. But that’s just my gut feeling after seeing so many sloppy apps come out.

dendy

for me it is absolutely irrelevant if corporate shit blah blah is written by AI or by humans. Result is same garbage.

From demo on website I don’t hear anything what can’t be obtained with already available iOS reverbs in same or actually better quality.

And I really dislike the UI.