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NO SIGNS OF SOREN - New Lady App Trak

Greetings good people of the planet.. It's been a while.

This is a song about:
When you lose someone who has been in your life a long time, and then you meet another who reminds you of the one that you lost. And then..

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  • Premiere set for 4PM Eastern today.

  • @Lady_App_titude said:
    Premiere set for 4PM Eastern today.

    The wait is excruciating! 😅 I can't wait to hear new music from you.

  • Had to give it two listens. Currently on my third listen-through. :) What a great song, my friend. You wrote those awesome lyrics (besides singing and producing)?

  • fantastiko!:)

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Had to give it two listens. Currently on my third listen-through. :) What a great song, my friend. You wrote those awesome lyrics (besides singing and producing)?

    Thanks so much for listening, and your kind comments!

  • @rototom said:
    fantastiko!:)

    Thanks rototom!

  • Somebody somewhere mentioned Steely Dan and I can definitely hear that, lovely harmonies and guitar playing… and production … and and …

  • @Lady_App_titude said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Had to give it two listens. Currently on my third listen-through. :) What a great song, my friend. You wrote those awesome lyrics (besides singing and producing)?

    Thanks so much for listening, and your kind comments!

    Of course. ❤️ If you have any songwriting advice to share with me, etc, I'd be glad to learn a little more about your lyric writing process. ☺️

  • @GeoTony said:
    Somebody somewhere mentioned Steely Dan and I can definitely hear that, lovely harmonies and guitar playing… and production … and and …

    Thanks so much! I've gotten the SD comment quite a few times. Which is of course ridiculous, because I mean nobody can reach that kind of perfection. But OMG what a fantastic compliment! Can't get much better than that! This one does not feel very SD-like to me, no horns, etc., but I do use jazz chords combined with rock or funk beats, so I suppose that is what people are picking up on.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Had to give it two listens. Currently on my third listen-through. :) What a great song, my friend. You wrote those awesome lyrics (besides singing and producing)?

    Thanks so much for listening, and your kind comments!

    Of course. ❤️ If you have any songwriting advice to share with me, etc, I'd be glad to learn a little more about your lyric writing process. ☺️

    Oh my. Well, definitely lyrics (or melodies and vocals in general) is the hardest part, for me at least. I can write instrumental stuff all day, any day, but as soon as lyrics/vocals enter into it, it’s a much longer, far more challenging, process. And I almost always write the lyrics last, so it becomes like a Rubik’s cube puzzle trying to fit the words to the predetermined melody and tempo, and to somehow tell a story in a limited space.

    Lyric writing, songwriting advice? I don’t know. Like anything, start by studying the best. I grew up heavily influenced by my mom’s record collection and she tended to like music with a poetic or lyric focus: Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Kris Kristofferson, The Doors, The Moody Blues.. I inculcated that stuff from an early age. When other kids were singing Old MacDonald, my brother and I were learning every word to Mr. Tambourine Man, Hard Rain’s Gonna Fall, It’s All Right Ma, Blowin’ In The Wind..

    Then when I got older I was exposed to the composers of the so-called “Great American Songbook”, the jazz and Broadways tradition.. Gershwin, Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, Cole Porter, Harry Warren, Rodgers and Hart/Hammerstein, Stephen Sondheim, etc. That may not be your style, but so much to learn about brilliant use of language in that world.

    And plenty of great lyrics and storytellers in Motown (Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye), or country music (Hank Williams). All of that has been an influence. How to tell a story with a few chords and three minutes? Hank Williams is a masterclass.

    I also spent many years studying literature and the poets, from the ancient Greeks, to Shakespeare, to Blake, Dickinson, Whitman, Rimbaud.. to the modern era , Allen Ginsberg and Maya Angelou, and also have been friends with and collaborated with many poets over the years.

    Like anything, study and learn from the best. Beyond that.. What’s the other thing they always say?: Write what you know. You can only get so far on the inspiration of influences, then you need to find a way to tell your own story.

    In this case, this song was actually based on real-life adventures out riding my bike. I didn’t know if it would work as a song. This song was at least two years from the original idea to finished product. Hopefully I found a way to pull it off.

  • Such an enjoyable listen. Top quality on every count. The BV’s are a delight and when Larry Carlton comes in at the end … Brilliant!

  • Horns or not, definitely got that SD vibe for me. Excellent!

  • @Lady_App_titude said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Lady_App_titude said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Had to give it two listens. Currently on my third listen-through. :) What a great song, my friend. You wrote those awesome lyrics (besides singing and producing)?

    Thanks so much for listening, and your kind comments!

    Of course. ❤️ If you have any songwriting advice to share with me, etc, I'd be glad to learn a little more about your lyric writing process. ☺️

    Oh my. Well, definitely lyrics (or melodies and vocals in general) is the hardest part, for me at least. I can write instrumental stuff all day, any day, but as soon as lyrics/vocals enter into it, it’s a much longer, far more challenging, process. And I almost always write the lyrics last, so it becomes like a Rubik’s cube puzzle trying to fit the words to the predetermined melody and tempo, and to somehow tell a story in a limited space.

    See, I'm exactly the same way. I can write instrumentals all day any day, but once those lyrics and vocals enter the equation, yeah I fall flat (pun intended).

    Lyric writing, songwriting advice? I don’t know. Like anything, start by studying the best. I grew up heavily influenced by my mom’s record collection and she tended to like music with a poetic or lyric focus: Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Kris Kristofferson, The Doors, The Moody Blues.. I inculcated that stuff from an early age. When other kids were singing Old MacDonald, my brother and I were learning every word to Mr. Tambourine Man, Hard Rain’s Gonna Fall, It’s All Right Ma, Blowin’ In The Wind..

    Then when I got older I was exposed to the composers of the so-called “Great American Songbook”, the jazz and Broadways tradition.. Gershwin, Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, Cole Porter, Harry Warren, Rodgers and Hart/Hammerstein, Stephen Sondheim, etc. That may not be your style, but so much to learn about brilliant use of language in that world.

    And plenty of great lyrics and storytellers in Motown (Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye), or country music (Hank Williams). All of that has been an influence. How to tell a story with a few chords and three minutes? Hank Williams is a masterclass.

    I also spent many years studying literature and the poets, from the ancient Greeks, to Shakespeare, to Blake, Dickinson, Whitman, Rimbaud.. to the modern era , Allen Ginsberg and Maya Angelou, and also have been friends with and collaborated with many poets over the years.

    Like anything, study and learn from the best. Beyond that.. What’s the other thing they always say?: Write what you know. You can only get so far on the inspiration of influences, then you need to find a way to tell your own story.

    In this case, this song was actually based on real-life adventures out riding my bike. I didn’t know if it would work as a song. This song was at least two years from the original idea to finished product. Hopefully I found a way to pull it off.

    Some good solid advice. :) Thank you, friend.

  • Ah, also friend, if you need help with any songwriting tips and tricks and books and such, there's always this thread.

    https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/68592/good-songwriting-resources-tips-books-in-2026#latest

    I started it about a month and a half ago, and it has helped me. :) Maybe it'll help you too. ❤️

  • @AndyHoneybone said:
    Such an enjoyable listen. Top quality on every count. The BV’s are a delight and when Larry Carlton comes in at the end … Brilliant!

    Larry Carlton, oh my! (Swoon). Thanks so much! :)

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