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Pitch shifting guitar to sound like a bass guit
Has anybody tried his with success? Any suggestions....yes most people will say buy a bass guitar but... I don't have the funds right now...so how close can I simulate a bass guitar sound with my guitar? Merry christmas
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Hi,
I play bass as main instrument and I also have a guitar for jamming. Pitch-shifting will not produce realistic sound. Your best bet is jammsynth (free GET-IT-NOW)
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jam-synth/id732618765?mt=8
and a nice bass sound library
Ok I got it...what do I do
guitar->jammsynth (mute internal synth sounds)-->MidiOUT--> an app that has bass sample library-->MidiIN of that app
Maybe sampletank free edition has some samples but maybe someone else could recommend one...In the meantime you could try the particular set-up since it's free
Thanks
Awesome idea...will try this out. Does anyone know if the Jamup bass expansion pack had a bass simulator?
guitar-to-MIDI isn't that reliable in my experience, too many dropped notes. I've tried quite a few options for simulating a bass guitar with an electric six-string, and Tonestack does a pretty good job IMO, here's a comparison of various methods:
I get the best results using doing this on iOS using the MIDI Guitar app, but you still need to adjust for the latency. Use the neck pup and play as clean or dry as you can, keeps the latency down and improves the accuracy of the MIDI conversion.
Love the Jamsynth app for its synth sounds, but have not been able to get a decent Bass sound form the synth and like MIDI Guitar better for the MIDI conversion.
The easiest and most accurate way to do this for me is to use logic pro X on my MacBook Pro, play in the bass line on guitar dry up an octave or two and then convert it to MIDI in Logic Pro X then output the midi file back to my iPad on in to through iFretless or similar. You can edit the MIDI in LPX if you want, I tend not to unless the MIDI conversion messes up.
I'd love to see a guitar synth that had presets like Bass, Brass, Strings, etc. This would be awesome. Could not be done with samples without the MIDI conversion and I don't think the latency on the iOS MIDI conversion is low enough to make this practical for live performances.
@richardyot : Need to try that Tonestack setup, might be a better pure iOS solution for me.
Buy a bass and learn to play. The byproduct is that you'll never be out of work!
I agree with the advice given above,
It depends what bass sound you are going for
Plugging your guitar in you can use the Octaver effects pedal model in Jam up or Tonestack, (1 or 2 octaves below) use front pickup, compression, apply some eq to boost bass, tune down a third or fourth down and restring using a heavy Low E and A
You can use Midi Guitar, jam synth as above, midimorphosis or Thumb jam
To use your guitar as a controller for bass guitar sound sounds
I think you would better off with the ifretless bass app cause the sounds and expression
possible as well as the guitar like interface are better than those in GarageBand, and equal to the methods above in most cases
You can double different bass sounds, so use 2 midi tracks of different bass sounds, that can help if you are using GB
And the sounds are pretty good
But it really depends on the style genre and sound you are aiming for
In my experience ToneStack handles pitch effects far better than any other app. Jam Synth is pretty cool too, though it's been a while since I've used it. I like MIDI Guitar a lot for certain applications, but bass isn't one. I find the tracking to be too inaccurate in the lower register and the little nuances of your playing are lost in the conversion to MIDI. I think you're better off just playing the bass lines on a keyboard really. I highly recommend saving up for an inexpensive bass. They're really fun to play and you'll get much better results.
Thumbjam electric bass preset and using its audio to midi converter engine. Run that through an amp sim.
If you're in the US and you need an inexpensive bass, rondomusic.com is the place. The sx basses, with a good setup, are amazing for the price. I have a short scale neck that I bought from them and it is really good.
And by owning a bass, you'll already have gigs lined up. That's not me being funny either, it's the truth.
On the learning front, Scottsbasslessons.com is a GREAT resource.
Anybody care to share a screenshot
Of the settings in tonestack..,and compression setting etc
@richardyotrichardyot thanks for the demo!
If you can let a little bit of the actual guitar through, I find the octave pedals sound a little better. They all seem to mush up the attack. If possible, gate the life out of the live guitar signal-you really just want the attack. Tuning down helps them too.
@Vejichan said:
http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/32794#Comment_32794
Sorry, I missed the "I don't have the funds for a bass right now" part. Another suggestion, not sure what you play or where you're located, but maybe seek some collaboration locally or if virtual, offer to barter services to play on others' tracks who need what you do. More than one person involved can often bring good things to a project.
And, in a very unpopular statement here, hold off on app buying and save some cash for a bass. I bet through Craigslist you might be able to find something under $75. Definitely under $100.
However, with all that said, if you want to try the octave down idea, just start trying it and keep working at it until you get a sound you like. You may come up with something unique that others will try to imitate. There's some things I've watched recently from bassists who are using a boss octave pedal with just the octave 1 signal on, and lots of players now using that sound as part of their toolkit.
Good luck with it!
I'm not the OP, but I can say that my wife would never allow yet another musical instrument purchase, which is why the octave down thing works for me. As per the demo I posted Tonestack does a pretty good job of it.
The other thing I've been experimenting with is using synth basses instead, you can get some cool and different sounds that way, but obviously it won't fit if you're playing a very narrow genre.
Try Thumbjam as @Coolobar mentions. Note Sonosaurus' comments on setup in the following link:
http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/2610/was-thumbjam-made-by-god/p1
Any settings for the octave down ? Which app?
Still not sure if any of the octave box solutions would get you a bass sound that you'd want to actually record. I was able to get an odd string bass sound out of my Variax in acoustic mode with an octave box. Fun to play live, but wouldn't fool anyone on a recording. I've also gotten decent results from a Fishman Triple Play running into iFretless Bass, but the Fishman is a bit expensive and even the minimal latency of it isn't perfect for tight bass sync with a drummer. IFretless alone is still the best tone vs playability experience on it's own for me.
@richardyot said:
Then the perfect solution is to get rid of your guitar so you can get a bass. Life will be better, I promise! If you're already married, then the "bass players don't get chicks" argument really doesn't matter, does it? ;-)
Then there's always the "you're right, I don't need a bass, what I need is 20 versions of the same black shoe" argument. I kid, I kid!
I've pared my bass "collection " to one main bass which is fantastic (required selling most of my stuff to get it) and one backup which is not fantastic. And I have a cheap guitar that I've had forever. Kids playing sports and working automobiles is directing most of my income these days.
And @vejichan, what have you tried so far? Post a clip, it might be easier to provide suggestions that way.
Sell my guitar to get a bass? Wash your mouth out with soap!
@richardydot, No time to wash, too many gigs. All my free time is spent fielding calls from guitarists asking me to try to get them on one of those gigs. ;-) ha!
Hey Richard can u tell me what settings...efx u used to get a bass sound
I think Flux fx has a better octave down sound than Tonestack not perfect but almost
there!
I just used the Wanger or Pitch Shifter pedals in Tonestack - nothing special, just set them to octave down.