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iFretless bass question

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  • Just listening back to a track I used this on recently, and it sounds superb - really deep and warm. Love this app, right up there in my top 5.

  • I love ifretless Bass and guitar, I think they are really unique, but I get a lot of clicks with them (on an iPad 4/iOS 8.1.2).
    I've tried all the suggestions, but it still happens. I recently emailed the dev and he said an update was in the offing re. iOS8 pops / clicks - I look forward to it.

  • @Igneous1 said:

    I love ifretless Bass and guitar, I think they are really unique, but I get a lot of clicks with them (on an iPad 4/iOS 8.1.2).
    I've tried all the suggestions, but it still happens. I recently emailed the dev and he said an update was in the offing re. iOS8 pops / clicks - I look forward to it.

    That's interesting, I don't get any on my iPad 2/ios 7. There's a lot of clipping with the volume though, so I keep this turned down and don't use too much gain. I also usually play it through Tonestack and use this to boost the volume and add a bit of grit. I also don't layer the sounds, I just use a single instrument to avoid taxing my puny CPU.

    Top of my wishlist for an iFretless series update would be some ADSR control. Being able to reduce the attack, for example, would make some of the electric guitar presets more usable in iFretless Guitar.

  • @monzo said:

    Top of my wishlist for an iFretless series update would be some ADSR control. Being able to reduce the attack, for example, would make some of the electric guitar presets more usable in iFretless Guitar.

    Yes please with extra yes please.

  • Yeah, the electric/grunge options, while having a nice tone are a bit plectrum heavy. I'd like a bit of Fripp-style glide in there.

  • Recent updates sorted out the clicks / pops for me !
    I still think this is a fantastic instrument - which I need to practice with regarding intonation !
    I've played guitar for over 30 years, but ifretless has opened up new areas of playing for me.

  • @Igneous1 said:
    Recent updates sorted out the clicks / pops for me !
    I still think this is a fantastic instrument - which I need to practice with regarding intonation !
    I've played guitar for over 30 years, but ifretless has opened up new areas of playing for me.

    Interesting! I honestly had shelved this one for no particularly good reason - I'm always away from my guitars and want to make backing tracks w/ bass and drums when I can't be around a guitar - this is the perfect tool for that. The clicking had always been a thing with it, though only on certain settings and if used aggressively. I'll have to check it out to see if it got better.

  • Never had clicks, but like the update with the new instruments. One of my fave apps.

  • I'm jealous of you lot! iFretless Bass and Guitar are both dead in the water on my iPad Air (iOS 8). I'm a little miffed about it, mainly because I really miss using them! Waiting hopefully on an update...

  • @excesseye Air1, right? Not having any issues over here...

  • Yeah, Air 1. When I launch iFB, I get what sounds like a very short burst of audio feedback (very loud) and then nothing; no output whatsoever. Also, on launch, the audio waveform that shows behind the strings is just vertical lines running from top to bottom of the display, as in the screenshot. Tapping a string returns the waveform to normal, but still no output.

    Anyway, TMI, I'm sure, but in case the dev is reading...

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    excesseye Air1, right? Not having any issues over here...

  • @excesseye said:
    Yeah, Air 1. When I launch iFB, I get what sounds like a very short burst of audio feedback (very loud) and then nothing; no output whatsoever.

    Have you rebooted since updating? My version did this when I first launched after updating, but a reboot fixed it.

  • @excesseye

    Did you try deleting iFretless and install it again? This is something that often works especially since iFretless is working for other people with Air 1. Which version of iOS does your device have?

  • I just tried re-installing and rebooting afterwards, and still have the same problem. I'm on 8.1.2 right now. I may try updating to 8.1.3 this evening and see if that helps.

  • @excesseye said:
    I just tried re-installing and rebooting afterwards, and still have the same problem. I'm on 8.1.2 right now. I may try updating to 8.1.3 this evening and see if that helps.

    Worth a go, remove the variables from the equation etc.

  • I've had problems with iFretless bass and guitar tonight - nearly lost my eardrums as they both spouted extreme blasts of static when loaded into AB. Quitting, launching them first and then loading them into AB seemed to cure it, but there's obviously something amiss.

  • Problems with iFretless guitar as well - horrible bursts of static if I load it straight into to AB, and if I launch it first sometimes there's no sound at all. Not sure if this is an AB issue of iFretless, as I'm having issues with GarageBand in AB as well.

    Urgh.

  • edited February 2015

    Had some vicious electric farting from ifretless Bass in AB yesterday, but it subsided, thankfully.

  • Hi everyone-- this is really an iFretless Guitar question (since that's what I'm using) but I'm sure it applies to the bass version as well.

    Have been using iFG for a couple of years now strictly as its own instrument through AB into Garageband and Looptical. But yesterday I started using it to control Bismark BS-16i via MIDI (with Sonatine Symphonic Orchestra loaded in BS-16i) and used this way it's ASTONISHING. A velocity sensitive guitar synth controlling orchestral samples!

    Unfortunately I can't find a combo that successfully records this without crashing due to low memory. I tried the iFretless-controlled BS-16i into Garageband through AB and through IAA, then tried it through AB into Looptical, then tried it through AB into Xewton Music Studio. (Those are the only 3 DAWs I have at the moment). GB and Music Studio both couldn't handle it-- each instance crashed BS-16i with repeated Low Memory warnings displayed. Looptical was also very unhappy but eventually was able to record the iFG-controlled BS-16i after I dismissed about ten consecutive memory warnings in the iFG window.

    I think basically iFretless and BS-16i are both memory intensive apps, and the two of them together is okay but add a recording output to the mix and it's too much. I'm using a brand new iPhone 6+ with 128GB storage (bought specifically for the added screen real estate for music apps).

    Anyone know an iOS DAW that runs so light that my phone might be able to sustain this setup? I have to record this workflow, it's just too good.

    Thanks!

  • Record into Audioshare (via AB...unless BS-16i support IAA, which I don't think it does) than exporting to a DAW might be the lightest approach.

  • BS-16i does show up for me as a Generator or an Instrument in IAA for GB.

    I didn't know you could record directly into Audioshare via AB. Gonna mess with that on my next break at work. Can you record directly into Audioshare via IAA as well?

  • I haven't tried it, but you should be able to, if it's an IAA generator.

  • Just bought Audioshare. Looks like something I should have gotten ages ago anyway. Will try the iFG>MIDI>BS-16i>IAA>AS workflow this afternoon, fingers crossed.

  • @JonLewis good luck. If this hiccup has led you to AS it will have been worth it overall...

  • Update: have now gotten both the ifG>BS-16i>Audioshare and the ifG>BS-16i>GB workflows to record without glitches. The critical fix was to take the Sonatina Symphonic Orchestra soundfont, which I had in the version which is one single huge sf2, and use a utility to split it into one sf2 file per instrument. With the smaller font file mounted in BS-16i I don't get crashes.

    Now, though, I'm dealing with GB's occasional stubborn refusal to recognize BS-16i in IAA. Yesterday it was no problem, today no go all day long.

    The best flow of all is controlling the orchestral patches in Xewton Music Studio directly with iFretless. That involves the fewest middlemen and gives me piano roll note-editing afterward. Big downside: Xewton doesn't accept sf2. It already has a facsimile of Sonatina Symphonic onboard but other must-have fonts (Ethan's Bassoon, ixox Flute, the sitar and tabla from within Indian Ensemble, Steve's Les Paul, etc etc etc) have to be custom created within Xewton by recording note series from BS-16i into Audioshare, chopping that into single note samples, and assigning them to a custom instrument in Xewton. End results are great but it takes me about 30 minutes to create each instrument...

  • not many ifretless bass videos huh

  • @kobamoto said:
    not many ifretless bass videos huh

    Surprising really, one of my favourite apps though.

  • @monzo said:

    @kobamoto said:
    not many ifretless bass videos huh

    Surprising really, one of my favourite apps though.

    Ditto. I have all the ifretless set and like them all, but open bass ten times more than the others...

  • edited November 2015

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @monzo said:

    @kobamoto said:
    not many ifretless bass videos huh

    Surprising really, one of my favourite apps though.

    Ditto. I have all the ifretless set and like them all, but open bass ten times more than the others...

    I use it for synths and leads as well. I've got the Guitar version but don't seem to use that anywhere near as much.

    I'm enjoying controlling Alchemy on Logic via the iPad iFretless-like remote controller.

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